+1Thank you for posting all those pages! Good reading, and I love the history wrapped up inside!
+1Thank you for posting all those pages! Good reading, and I love the history wrapped up inside!
Excellent post,I just received a Newt Fedora from Ebay,the size is 7 3/8, the seller showed a photo of a "ripple" in the sweat which I rightly thought was a piece of foam sizing once removed it is good to go.
Congratulations again on that beauty.Excellent post,I just received a Newt Fedora from Ebay,the size is 7 3/8, the seller showed a photo of a "ripple" in the sweat which I rightly thought was a piece of foam sizing once removed it is good to go.
Question I wear between 3/8-1/2 can someone walk me through sizing this Montecristi up a little?
I'm not sure what you're asking. Looks like a real nice hat. Do you have it in hand then? Try it on and see how she fits! Are you referring to grading? Take a ruler and count the weaves per inch , ie, 20x20 = 400 weaves per square inch (wpsi). There's more to it thn just wpsi though... is the weave pattern nice and symmetrical, is the brim edge woven back into itself for a nice finished edge, free of waves and irregularities?Question I wear between 3/8-1/2 can someone walk me through sizing this Montecristi up a little?
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Gently in several stages!Don't overthink the issue.Put the stretcher in,snug it up,add just a turn or two and let it sit overnight.....repeat as needed.Fed,
It is a beautiful hat,I do have it in hand. Fits a little tighter than I would like, if need be I can live with it.
I was wondering about the steps to take it from a 3/8 to 7/16 or even 1/2 I have a couple of stretchers but so far have only used them for slight mods.
So after counting the WPI, how do you affix and determine the "grade" ???I'm not sure what you're asking. Looks like a real nice hat. Do you have it in hand then? Try it on and see how she fits! Are you referring to grading? Take a ruler and count the weaves per inch , ie, 20x20 = 400 weaves per square inch (wpsi). There's more to it thn just wpsi though... is the weave pattern nice and symmetrical, is the brim edge woven back into itself for a nice finished edge, free of waves and irregularities?
Looks great from what I can see...
WPI x VoodooSo after counting the WPI, how do you affix and determine the "grade" ???
@KarlCrow is exactly right. There is a certain amount of voodoo, black magic, or even willy nilly applied to the equation. Arbitrary is perhaps the best word, or I just don't understand it all. It was explained to me in Cuenca like this:So after counting the WPI, how do you affix and determine the "grade" ???
Thanks. Accordingly weaves per INCH divided by 2 (basically)@KarlCrow is exactly right. There is a certain amount of voodoo, black magic, or even willy nilly applied to the equation. Arbitrary is perhaps the best word, or I just don't understand it all. It was explained to me in Cuenca like this:
Count the "points" or weaves in an inch, going both with the weave and against the weave. If you get 10 points you divide by 2 and get a grade 5 hat.
A grade 10 should be 20 x 20 = 400 wpsi. A grade 6 is 12 x 12 = 144 wpsi. But I have yet to see a graded hat or hat body that actually follows the equation. Even the grade 12 hat bodies I picked up are closer to 20 - 22 wpi, not 24 x24.
The guy grading hats at one shop actually had what looked like a little jeweler's loupe that was 1 inch square in the magnified area, making counting a lot easier.Thanks. Accordingly weaves per INCH divided by 2 (basically)
Alastair Sim (with Jane Wyman in Hitchcock's Stage Fright) sporting a look I have toyed with... the unblocked straw hood.
Stay away from the Ebay offerings, unless you want to blow $40-$50.00 on a paper hat. FedOregon's suggestions are all good, but you might also consider Peters Bros. and Sunbody Hats, both of which are in your own home state. PB in Ft. Worth have straws, but they also do some very nice hemps, and you can get them in a range of colors and styles - pretty much custom-made for about $150.00. The Sunbodys are great hats as well and start at about $50.00.I don't have a panama yet, but given my locale and the climate here I surely need one. Can we all agree on that?
So I'm looking to get into the Panama game but I can't spend too much without disturbing the domestic serenity.
I've seen some on eBay which claim to be legit hand woven from Ecuador. Some are sold by an importer in Florida and some are direct from Ecuador.
They average around $40 to $50 at this time.
So are those legit and decent quality?
BTW, how difficult is it to change the ribbon on Panama hats? Is it usually glued or does it slide off?
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No. I can't count past 5...
Great! Me too! I tried just the other night but started goin blind roun 10 and swore I got to 11 or 12 so it's definitely higher then a Stetson "grade 8" Thats exactly what Jeff Dyer (the southeast Stetson rep) thought when he saw pics of the hat.I just counted the WPSI on the Norwood about 12x12 but may be 11x11 so 121 to 144 WPSI by my count?