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Painted Flight Jackets - Planes, Names, and Dames

442RCT

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In this thread I'd like posters to add pics and stories about their painted A-2 jackets, originals and reproductions. I've seen and enjoyed many posts where forum members have posted pics of their painted A-2s.
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=38526
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=48366
Fedora Lounge has many other "Show Me Your..." threads"...This one will be,

Show Me Your Painted Flight Jackets !

I'll start with my very first flight jacket. It was a really bad copy of an A-2, at the time I didn't have a clue how bad it was, [huh] I bought it at a 'yuppie' surplus store, (now that's an oxymoron in itself), that was going out of business. This store didn't sell real military surplus, just things that looked like military type clothing to people who wanted to be trendy and fashionable...that's a yuppie surplus store. The jacket was on sale for 1/2 price, at $ 60, and I've always been interested in WW2 aviation and especially fascinated with 'nose art'.

Notice the trendy cowboy metal collar tips, the pre-distressed leather, the split down the center of the back.
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After acquiring this jacket, I told a friend that I'd bought a nose art jacket but wasn't thrilled with the 'art' on the back. He told me he knew a guy who was sort of an artist and would ask if he'd repaint my jacket. At this time, most of the advertised jacket painters were charging what was big money for a paint job, at least more than I could afford. The artist lived in another state and I sent him my jacket and design...not having a clue how good or bad an artist he was.

I sent him this Playboy cover and asked him to use it for the jacket back.
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He painted over the original jacket back, at my request, added "Liberty Belle and Flying for Freedom". A master pinup artist he wasn't, but that was okay, it added to the folk art period nose art of the time. Because he painted over a silk-screened paint job onto pre-distressed leather, after 20 years of wear, as they say, the paint is acquiring a patina, or cracking and flaking off.
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Later as I was teaching myself how to paint, I added the pilot's wings and the USAAF and Chinese AF rondels for a "Flying Tigers" theme.

To keep it as a "Flying Tigers" themed jacket, I painted over the front patch with my interpretation of an AVG 3rd Pursuit "Hells Angels" patch.
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So this was the start of my painted jackets collection. The label says this jacket was imported by Cooper Leather. I'm sure it was to compete with the Cockpit/Avirex line. I still have this jacket and still wear it to this day. The leather isn't lambskin, it's pre-distressed cowhide and wears like iron.
 

442RCT

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Starting Small

I am not a trained artist, nor do I profess that I have any artistic talent. I was just a fiscally challenged guy who wanted nose art jackets and couldn't afford to have 'real' artists paint a jacket for me. I started small by painting cartoon patches, my first three were for the Flying Tigers squadrons, they were all cartoons and easy to copy. I plagiarized liberally from nose art books.

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Even though this wasn't a patch, I thought it was hilarious and made one up.
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I bought a G-1 that had the patch on the front removed, so I measured the size and found a Marine Scout Bomber 234 patch in "Hell Bent For Leather" to go with the other Marine aviation patches on the jacket.
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kampkatz

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Your artwork is commendable. Since the jacket is not really a WW2 era A-2
your painting can only improve its appearance. Once you obtain a more accurate A-2 you should be in good practice to paint exactly what you want.
Keep up the good work!
 

442RCT

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Little Friends

After I painted cartoon patches for practice, I found a jacket in "Hell Bent For Leather" that were Disney cartoon characters.

In WW2, the bomber pilots referred to their fighter escorts as, little friends, so I changed the original from Snow White to Little Friends, as a tribute to the escort fighters.

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For the front patch, I've always liked, Petie, the kid with a riding crop and carrying a machine gun, so I copied it.
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Speedbird

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excellent work, sir!

just wonderful .... I love the fact you have taken original ideas and developed them rather than cloning... 'little friends' is inspired. I love your 1st and 2nd Pursuit Squadron patches. I might have to commission you to do a 3rd Pursuit Squadron patch for my undecorated 'Ed Overend' early Avirex tribute jacket...

What I love most is the way you put the AVG flying tiger on the playboy cover girls' dressing gown - the devil is always in the detail! Such a neat little clue to the story!

Speedy
 

captaincaveman1

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These just get better and better. You have true talent.

I used to think that painted jackets just weren't for me but you have changed my opinion. I also like how you take something off the rack and put your own unique spin on it.

Can you post pics of you or someone wearing them. Would be interesting to see how they look on a person. Keep it up.
 

442RCT

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Not For Sale !

Speedbird said:
I might have to commission you to do a 3rd Pursuit Squadron patch for my undecorated 'Ed Overend' early Avirex tribute jacket...
Speedy

Speedy, I cannot sell you a patch...no, no, no way !!! Just PM me with which one you want and I'll send it to you my friend. I know that you will appreciate the patch and that's enough for me. ;) Just post a pic of your jacket.

The two smaller Angels are about the size of a CD.

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Waving Angel
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Walking Angel
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Sitting Angel
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ps- I used to practice painting a lot and the AVG 3rd Pursuit had many variations of their little angel.
 

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Sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar!

All of the patches are beautiful and as you say, there were many variations on the theme.... each one its own little take on the overall idea...

I have lifted this from an AVG forum I found in searching for info on Ed:

Originally posted by Chuck Baisden:
I was one of Ed Overend's armorers and did service his aircraft many times.
The Hell's Angeles painted on the fuselage were whatever the pilot designed and I don't believe any two were exactly alike.
Some were painted on by his crew chief or by the pilot himself. I do not remember if Ed's figure was standing, sitting or walking.
Chuck Baisden
armorer-3rd Sqdn
AVG 1941-42


The rest of the discussion is here:

http://oldforums.flyingtigersavg.co...ject=3rd+PS,+|QUT|Hells+Angels|QUT|&replyto=1

As you can see, I am torn between the armourer who doesn't recall and Frank L who is very sure it is a standing angel ... but whereas the armourer (Chuck) tells us who he is, Frank L doesn't.

Either way, yet more proof that these things were individual and personal and no one representation can be considered 'correct' or definitive.

I am inclined to go with the 'waving angel' but I love the 'sitting angel'... what do you think?

Edit: I have just found out that there is a published book by a Frank Losonsky called Flying Tiger: "A Crew Chief's Story" Hmmm ... if he says Ed flew plane 71 and had a standing angel, I think I will believe him!
 

Whithead

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What type of paint?

Considering giving this a shot and was just wondering what type of paint you used for best adhesion to the leather?
 

Speedbird

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my 1989 'Ed Overend' A-2 type jacket by Avirex USA

This is not a beautiful example; it is not the best example of Avirex (Cockpit USA) and it is certainly not an authentic replica in so many ways - but then again it remains true to the 'soul' of an A-2 in so many other ways. It doesn't really fit here in this thread - it's not painted and maybe is an orphan for the other thread - but here goes!

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It is antiqued heavy cowhide. It has visible side entry pockets, 3 piece sleeves and two piece back and wallet pockets inside. It doesn't have a throat hook; it does have underarm grommets. On the other hand, it is at least 21 years old, has been worn and worn and worn; in the UK, in the summer heat and in the winter wet and wind. It has been worn while riding (and falling off) horses and motorcycles and also in my 1980 Capri. It has been to the Arabian desert and twice it has been to China. I might have sponged it down with a damp cloth once in a while but that's about all. It has a heavy duty YKK zipper that has the shape and look of one of the original zips but not the brand name. It's epaulettes are double stitched and boxed. The cuffs and waistband are still perfect after all these years of abuse. The jacket is bomb proof and cost me a princely £100 21 years ago - almost a weeks wages for me back then but, given it's durability and complete lack of running costs, it is one of the best value items I have ever owned!

The lining:

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Ed Overend was a pilot in the 3rd Pursuit Squadron, A.V.G. He went on to command a Marine Fighting Squadron (VMF-321) in the South Pacific theatre. He had a colourful history I understand - a real warrior and knight of the sky! An ace with a 'kills' tally in the high thirties, he had 8 planes shot out from under him! I guess that means he was lucky as well as brave - and worth remembering!
Edit: actually, I might be confusing his Squadron tally with his personal tally - nonetheless a memorable guy! I was; his personal tally was 9 - 6 with the AVG and 3 as CO of VMF-321; undoubtedly an Ace!

The lining isn't as OTT as some; it has a small bloodchit and the silk screen print and the 1978 made up contract label - and that's about it. Yet it is still intact and aside from a biro pen ink stain caused by me; it is still very serviceable.

I like it! :) And feel it is time to decorate it so it can shout a bit louder in the future!
 

442RCT

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Whithead said:
Considering giving this a shot and was just wondering what type of paint you used for best adhesion to the leather?

You can pretty much use whatever kind of paint you want. For 'authenticity' most recommend enamel paint. Personally I use latex paint since it flexs and stretches with the leather. When I started, I bought one of those cheap latex hobby paint kits with six colors, I think it cost $ 1.99 for the set. Since latex is water based paint, it'll run right off the sealed finished leather. For patches, I deglaze the surface of the leather with acetone or napthol before painting with latex, this will allow the latex to soak into the leather fibers. When I learned more about the painting from an artist friend of mine, she told me to buy better quality paint with more pigment and Floetrol paint conditioner-extender to make the paint flow and cover better. The Floetrol helps to minimize brush strokes.

I've taken a couple of my leather patches and spun, crumpled, twisted, pulled and wiped the paint with different leather conditioners to see how they held up. The patches showed no significant wear to the paint.

I hope that helps. ;)
 

442RCT

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Speedbird said:
This is not a beautiful example; it is not the best example of Avirex (Cockpit USA) and it is certainly not an authentic replica in so many ways - but then again it remains true to the 'soul' of an A-2 in so many other ways. It doesn't really fit here in this thread - it's not painted and maybe is an orphan for the other thread - but here goes!

It is antiqued heavy cowhide. I might have sponged it down with a damp cloth once in a while but that's about all. The jacket is bomb proof and cost me a princely £100 21 years ago - almost a weeks wages for me back then but, given it's durability and complete lack of running costs, it is one of the best value items I have ever owned!

I like it! :) And feel it is time to decorate it so it can shout a bit louder in the future!

That's one of the virtues of the non-lambskin 'orphan' jackets, they wear extremely well. I'm glad I can be part of giving your jacket a voice...lol

When you finally settle on which angel you want, PM me with your mailing address. In the book, "The Pictorial History of the Flying Tigers" by Larry Pistole, there's a fuzzy frame from a color film strip with Ed Overend standing next to a plane, it looks like a waving angel on the fuselage, it may or may not have been his plane, Duke Hedman also had the waving angel on the fuselage of his plane. Pictures of Chuck Baisden's jacket has the waving angel painted on the left side of his jacket.

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captaincaveman1

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Speedbird said:
This is not a beautiful example; it is not the best example of Avirex (Cockpit USA) and it is certainly not an authentic replica in so many ways - but then again it remains true to the 'soul' of an A-2 in so many other ways. It doesn't really fit here in this thread - it's not painted and maybe is an orphan for the other thread - but here goes!
Cool! Can you post pics of the blood chit? I was thinking of buying a silk-screened one off ebay and getting it sewn into the interior lining of my A-2. Would be a nice tribute.

I have a personal connection to the AVG - my grandfather was an air traffic controller with Chiang Kai Shek's Nationalist Air Force. He, my infant father, and grandmother evacuated China by air as Mao's communist troops closed in on their city after the Japanese surrender.

My father told me his pop had a leather flight jacket from the war but sold it later in Taiwan - times were tough in the immediete post-war years. I don't know if the garment was a US issue or a theater-made jacket or a gift from the AVG. Anyway, it would've made a nice heirloom had he kept it but I can't blame him for selling of course.
 

Speedbird

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Blood Chit

Here ya go, Capt:

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I don't think this one is the best example to follow though - it is in multiple languages and I think a 'generic' representation. However, here is a pic (of a blood chit patch from Pop's Leathers) which I think is the same as the one shown on RCT's blood chit jacket in the orphan thread and the same as one version used by old Avirex. The main thing you want is a period specific repro not one from Korea or later. And from someone reliable unless you happen to read Chinese Mandarin - random characters could say anything!

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There were several CBI/Flying Tigers blood chits in the old Cockpit catalogs, along with the other associated patches. That is probably still the best place for you to start as the store is so close to you and as previously mentioned, the company and JC has a real love for the Tigers and always had a good selection of CBI related items. They might have something original on display and they certainly have a ton of material in their archives. Ask if they have an archive copy of the 1988 catalog for you to look at. You'll see what I mean.

I think we might need to start yet another new thread in the WW2 section to pursue this, but your family link to your grandfather is very exciting for anyone interested in the AVG, China Air Task Force, 14 AF and CBI in general. Too often this theatre and period is overlooked. It is a common lament of the British Far East veterans that Burma is completely forgotten.

This link is a goldmine for you to look through:

http://www.cbi-history.com

Ignore this if your grandfather was a Chinese National and skip to next paragraph! Specifically, because I had some time on my hands, I had a good read through for you this morning. Several 'Fighter Control Squadrons' are identified. I don't know if ATC's were grouped into distinct 'squadrons' or if I have misunderstood that terminology but there is a clear reference made by a former member saying that they provided the comms for the fighter units at air stations in China. If you know the year and embarkation point of your Grandfather's deployment you will probably work out which unit he was with, if you don't already know. 322nd FCS left Bradley Field, CT for China in '43 whereas 317th FCS left March Field, CA in '44 for example. He could even have been in the HQ Squadron of the original AVG or CATF if earlier than 14th AF. This is worth pursuing.

There is enough resource and info for you to decorate the inside of your A-2 in a truly original, accurate and personal manner in memory of your Grandad and still retain the undecorated clean look on the outside. Take inspiration from the photos in the above website (scroll right down until you get to 'Chinese American Composite Wing' which had Chinese and Americans working side by side. Check out Capt Harry Kebric's jacket and scarf. They are beautiful.

Talk about an iconic story telling patch! the Flying Tiger and Chinese Serpent ripping the Japanese flag to shreds! You can also see a contemporary blood chit too!

Happy hunting!
 

442RCT

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captaincaveman1 said:
Cool! Can you post pics of the blood chit? I was thinking of buying a silk-screened one off ebay and getting it sewn into the interior lining of my A-2. Would be a nice tribute.

I have a personal connection to the AVG - my grandfather was an air traffic controller with Chiang Kai Shek's Nationalist Air Force. He, my infant father, and grandmother evacuated China by air as Mao's communist troops closed in on their city after the Japanese surrender.

Here's a link to a neat website about blood chits, be advised when you pick your blood chit, there are several variations in blood chits, AVG, 14th AF, CBI, etc.

http://cbi-theater-4.home.comcast.net/~cbi-theater-4/bloodchit/bloodchit.html

I too have a personal connection to the AVG through my dad as well, he was assigned to the MIS (Military Intelligence Service) and was posted to Kunming, China near the end of the war. Kunming had been one of the AVG airfields. He left with the rest of the US military when the Maoist took over.

Later in this thread I'll be posting pics of my painted AVG tribute jacket.

ps- I can already see you with your patched and painted A-2 AVG jacket lol
 

Speedbird

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Broke!

Have you seen Harry Kebric's jacket and scarf etc? As an Intelligence or Liaison Officer working alongside the Chinese National Officers his stuff is amazing and really tells a story beyond the 'official issue' - check out his scarf!

And I too can see Caveman progressing along the route from a blood chit to a CBI patch to an AVG tiger patch to a full paint.... but if I read his first post right it truly needs to be an original one off telling the story of the Chinese Nationalists under Chiang Kai Shek and I don't think that has ever been done before :eusa_clap

PS: that Blood Chit website is really cool by the way...
 

442RCT

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Painted Ladies

I now knew I could paint cartoons, but pin-up girls were totally another matter. To be honest I didn't have a clue, so I practiced on scraps of leather.

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442RCT

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Non-Stop

It was time to copy another jacket out of the book, "Hell Bent For Leather". I guess you could say it was my canon on jacket art. At the time there were only 2 books about jacket art , "Cowboys of the Sky" put out by Avirex and "Hell Bent For Leather" These were my initial influences in regards to jacket art.

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I liked the art work on this jacket, with the double entendre about fighter escorts being able to go all the way with their bombers. I replaced the P-47 Jug with a P-51 Mustang and named the plane with what was to become my personal jacket logo, "Go For Broke ! ", in honor of the 442 RCT/100 Bn. who were army infantry, not USAAF aviators.

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This was the jacket I took with me to "Friends of American Fighter Aces" luncheons, where I had the honor and great pleasure to meet these real American heroes. They all grinned when I asked them to sign my jacket. At the time I didn't know the convention was to sign the lining, and asked them to sign the exterior. One ace, with a twinkle in his eye pointed at the pin-up and asked if could autograph her. I replied, "Sir, you can sign anywhere you want." Among the 37 aces signatures, I have four Medal of Honor recipients sign my jacket; Joe Foss, Jim Swett, Ken Walsh, and Carl E. Marion. I also have the signature of the leader of the mission to intercept and shoot down Japanese Admiral Yamamoto, John W. Mitchell, who many contend should have received the MOH.
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Here's a the pics referenced to in the link in the first post. might as well repost them here:

Baron Kurtz said:
I should stop referring to the zip as a replacement. This is what i was told, but i'm unconvinced.

Better pics.

Front. Note there was something stuck at one point to the left shoulder.

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Back.

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Art

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Pockets. Closed

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Open: Ring type snaps throughout the jacket. Made by Stocko.

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And the reinforcement for the snap, also showing the snap back.

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Collar area

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Back of collar

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bk
 

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