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P-38s in ETO

Stearmen

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P-38

The P-38 was the first American fighter to escort bombers all the way to Berlin and back! They had plenty of range, but took a lot more fuel then the P-51s to go the same distances. As mentioned the heaters were not very good, and no hot engine sitting in front of the pilot. The late model P-38Ls remedied these problems, and with the maneuvering flaps, could turn inside a Zero. Thats what got Tommy McGuire, when he went to the aid of one of his underlings, and forgot he still had his drop tanks! The pilots I talked to called them Cadillacs! I new Bill Gates, [no relation]. he flew with the 8th, they put them in the back, and he said "you couldn't get any thing back there"! He later flew a P-80 at the Cleveland air race came in a predetermined 4th. He said they had no leave tubes, so he would crack the left canopy window and lean up a little, the slipstream took care of the rest! All was well until he was doing it again and his wing man yelled over the radio, "check 6", so he swung his head around, urine all over the canopy and frozen, miserable flight home. I was told the P-51J powered by an Allison was the fastest because North American matted a Merlin supercharger, giving the Allison what it had always needed, high altitude performance! On a side note I know the Allison has a much better time between overhaul then the Merlin. However neither hold a candle to the king, Pratt & Whitney R2800, 1000 plus hours! Remember, "if god had intended man to fly behind in line engines, then Pratt & Whitney would have made them"!
 
Stearmen said:
On a side note I know the Allison has a much better time between overhaul then the Merlin. However neither hold a candle to the king, Pratt & Whitney R2800, 1000 plus hours! Remember, "if god had intended man to fly behind in line engines, then Pratt & Whitney would have made them"!
Maintenance hours, yeah, but for raw power ain't no beatin' the R-4360... *imagines a P-61 repowered with P-38-inspired handed R-4360s, 1/3 of a B-36's engines powering less than 1/10 the weight!*
 

Stearmen

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P-38

Diamondback said:
Maintenance hours, yeah, but for raw power ain't no beatin' the R-4360... *imagines a P-61 repowered with P-38-inspired handed R-4360s, 1/3 of a B-36's engines powering less than 1/10 the weight!*
Can't argue with that one! I loved the different sounds of the engines at full song when I saw them at the now defunct Denver Air Race. The Merlins were screaming for their lives, the Wright R3350s were so loud you could fill the pulses of the firing cylinders hit your body a quarter of a mile away, and the R4360 in the Super Corsair sounded like it was out for a Sunday drive!
 

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F-5, the photo-recon P-38

I came across some photos I bought maybe 15 years ago, and they are of F-5 Lightnings operated by the 90th Photo Recon Wing in Italy. In this first photo, Lt. Col. Karl L. Polifka stands in front of his F-5A "Rose Marie / Timber":
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In this photo, Lt. Col. Polifka is sitting in the cockpit of his F-5A:
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Here's another shot of Lt. Col. Polifka standing in front of his F-5:
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Here's a write-off. An F-5 destroyed during a landing accident:
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Here's a shot from an F-5A over Dresden:
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Here are two shots from an F-5E over Paris:
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kampkatz said:
In the third pic where the colonel is close up in front of his P-38, his garrison cap sports the rank of bird-colonel.
Looking closely at the original photo the rank insignia is not totally clear, but I have another photo from that same group that shows Polifka receiving the Legion Of Merit Medal states on the back, "Lt Col Karl L. Polifka".
I believe he became a full Colonel in early 1945.
 

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