Our own vintage town

[LizzieMaine]

Please consider the presence of usherettes in our fine movie palaces of the golden era...

The theatre I now manage was owned and managed by a woman from 1940 onward -- and she wasn't the only one in the business!

 

[Widebrim]

My cut off date is: November 9, 1960.

The day after Kennedy was elected?

 

[jamespowers]

The day after Kennedy was elected?

The day he was declared elected in a super close election.

 

[Widebrim]

The day he was declared elected in a super close election.

True. Yet if Tricky Dick had been elected, are you saying that the "Golden Era" would have continued? (And let's be honest: most people who write/speak about said era end it earlier than you or I.)

 

[jamespowers]

True. Yet if Tricky Dick had been elected, are you saying that the "Golden Era" would have continued? (And let's be honest: most people who write/speak about said era end it earlier than you or I.)

Nixon was just another dumbass. There really wasn't a dime's worth of difference between the two on policy. Look at their voting records. Kennedy might have even been more conservative.:eeek::eusa_doh:
In either case, yes, it would have been the end of an era but it was more pronounced when it was a younger man who had no connection to the past administration.[huh]

 

[Widebrim]

Nixon was just another dumbass. There really wasn't a dime's worth of difference between the two on policy. Look at their voting records. Kennedy might have even been more conservative.:eeek::eusa_doh:
In either case, yes, it would have been the end of an era but it was more pronounced when it was a younger man who had no connection to the past administration.[huh]

Yeah, but at least Pres. Kennedy was related to Peter Lawford...lol

 

[dhermann1]

To refine my data, I would have to say that for me the period from 1955 to 1963 is actually sort of marginal. I include those years to be generous to the Mad Men crowd. For me the Golden Era really ends in 1954, for various reasons.
But to return to the uhh errr TOPIC, wadda you guys think of my idea for age dating the neighborhoods?

 

[Diamondback]

Geez, you're killing me here. Children?! Geez, if the car means so much to you then put a 1957 Chevy or 1959 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz body on it.

Yeah, but supercomputers and Firebirds go together like time-machines and DeLoreans:
"If you're gonna build a ______ into a car, do it with some style!"--Dr. Emmett Brown

And my "kids" wouldn't be so much the vehicles, but the computer Artificial Intelligences controlling them...

 

[jamespowers]

Yeah, but supercomputers and Firebirds go together like time-machines and DeLoreans:
"If you're gonna build a ______ into a car, do it with some style!"--Dr. Emmett Brown

And my "kids" wouldn't be so much the vehicles, but the computer Artificial Intelligences controlling them...

There was a 59 cadillac in one of the shows.

 

[jamespowers]

To refine my data, I would have to say that for me the period from 1955 to 1963 is actually sort of marginal. I include those years to be generous to the Mad Men crowd. For me the Golden Era really ends in 1954, for various reasons.
But to return to the uhh errr TOPIC, wadda you guys think of my idea for age dating the neighborhoods?

You can age date neighborhoods but, as I said before, you are going to get neighborhodds that will be vintage ghettos if you go beyond a certain date.
"Who wants to live in that 70s neighborhood?"
"Yeah, the leisure suit capital of the world."

 

[Diamondback]

There was a 59 cadillac in one of the shows.

Ah, but good luck getting a big ol' boat up to 180 and keeping it there for a couple hours... lol

 

[jamespowers]

Ah, but good luck getting a big ol' boat up to 180 and keeping it there for a couple hours... lol

What? You don't like challenges?

 

[Diamondback]

I like challenges that can actually be achieved--a boat's too big and heavy to cruise at much more than 60-90 unless you turn it into a rolling gas-tank, which is both impractical (need room for luggage and a companion, not to mention the computers and guns and Q Branch gear) and unsafe...

 

[Widebrim]

To refine my data, I would have to say that for me the period from 1955 to 1963 is actually sort of marginal. I include those years to be generous to the Mad Men crowd. For me the Golden Era really ends in 1954, for various reasons.
But to return to the uhh errr TOPIC, wadda you guys think of my idea for age dating the neighborhoods?

Yeah, I think 1953-54 is a viable cut-off: The end of studio-controlled movie theaters, last days of "boxy" autos, the very beginning of Rock 'N' Roll, the unraveling of the "contract" player system, the further skyrocketing of TV sets, radio's "Golden Age" just ending ('55), the predominance of the Mr. T look for men, the end of the Korean War, further decline of hat-wearing among younger men, perhaps even the rise of the suburbs, etc.

As to your idea of neighborhood age-dating, like I said, it seems like a good one. However, neighborhoods would have to be very well defined, geographically-speaking, so that you wouldn't have the Jazz Age on the same block with the Great Depression. Also, if someone from, let's say, the '10s suburbs wanted to visit someone from the '40s neighborhood, would he have to change clothes, and keep the horse and buggy back home? (Yes, I know that some had autos in the 1910s; just making a point.) I'm not so much advocating historical period "segregation," but how would you prevent undesired overlap, or would you?

 

[jamespowers]

Yeah, I think 1953-54 is a viable cut-off: The end of studio-controlled movie theaters, last days of "boxy" autos, the very beginning of Rock 'N' Roll, the unraveling of the "contract" player system, the further skyrocketing of TV sets, radio's "Golden Age" just ending ('55), the predominance of the Mr. T look for men, the end of the Korean War, further decline of hat-wearing among younger men, perhaps even the rise of the suburbs, etc.

As to your idea of neighborhood age-dating, like I said, it seems like a good one. However, neighborhoods would have to be very well defined, geographically-speaking, so that you wouldn't have the Jazz Age on the same block with the Great Depression. Also, if someone from, let's say, the '10s suburbs wanted to visit someone from the '40s neighborhood, would he have to change clothes, and keep the horse and buggy back home? (Yes, I know that some had autos in the 1910s; just making a point.) I'm not so much advocating historical period "segregation," but how would you prevent undesired overlap, or would you?

That is enforced through zoning laws on the books. Every development etc. has to go before the board of zoning there it will be decided if the new building etc. will fit in with the neighborhood. Easy when you come down to it. The public will or course have say at the meetings---you get three minutes at the public comments section.

 

[Diamondback]

As for attire and vehicles, I'd bet there were a few cases of bleed-over back then. Rare, but between the obstinate ("Bitter Clingers"), the "too poor to keep up" and the "just plain don't care about 'Trendy'" demographics...

Not knocking any of these, I'm parts 1 and 3 myself, and wear my "Bitter Clinger" label with pride.

 

[jamespowers]

As for attire and vehicles, I'd bet there were a few cases of bleed-over back then. Rare, but between the obstinate ("Bitter Clingers"), the "too poor to keep up" and the "just plain don't care about 'Trendy'" demographics...

Not knocking any of these, I'm parts 1 and 3 myself, and wear my "Bitter Clinger" label with pride.

That would be fine if the bitter clinger was going back in chronological time. A guy living in the 40s section who dressed like it was the 20s or 30s would have been ok then as it would be in the town now. A guy in the 40s area who dresses like the 70s group Tavares gets a fine and thrown in jail for a month.

 

[Widebrim]

That would be fine if the bitter clinger was going back in chronological time. A guy living in the 40s section who dressed like it was the 20s or 30s would have been ok then as it would be in the town now. A guy in the 40s area who dresses like the 70s group Tavares gets a fine and thrown in jail for a month.

Man, you've got a thing against Tavares...but I like the thrown in jail idea...

 

[Diamondback]

Is it too much to ask that the "MIB, Protecting the Earth from the Scum of the Universe Since 1961" look be cut some slack? I mean, there've been variations on the "Fed/Heavy/Spook Suit" theme since suits entered wear...

 

[Widebrim]

Is it too much to ask that the "MIB, Protecting the Earth from the Scum of the Universe Since 1961" look be cut some slack? I mean, there've been variations on the "Fed/Heavy/Spook Suit" theme since suits entered wear...

Well, yeah, but that's for the '60s suburbs...