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Oumuamua

FOXTROT LAMONT

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Heads up. UFO whistleblower David Grusch to surface on May 21st at SALT Conference in NYC. See agenda, day #2 at 12:10.
Will his promised Op Ed be published before this event?
Why this event/venue? Stay tuned.

https://www.salt.org/event-agendas/2024-new-york
Didn't see Grusch at this conference listed. Looked but no Grusch.
Aside all else, Grusch has a parochial congressional committee damoclean blade hung over his neck that he willingly consented to. If he spills any genuine UFO beans, it'll be there.:confused:

My brother in law asked over cheese burgers this evening if I watched the Kentucky Derby. :eek:
 

Tiki Tom

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Karl Nell at today’s SALT conference in NY. Key takeaway (go to minute 2:30): non-human intelligence is absolutely real and there are people in the government who know about it.


Who is Karl Nell?

https://www.salt.org/speakers/karl-nell

So… just another talking head? One in a growing list of seemingly credible talking heads? Will there be more congressional hearings soon? Or is all of this stuff on ice until after the election?
 

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^^^^^. Very true. Not a bit of hard evidence is offered.
But what is motivating this guy? He is not trying to sell anything. Is he only trying to destroy his impressive career and tarnish his own reputation? What is Karl Nell’s motivation?

And, btw, what ever happened to David Grusch, that high level intelligence officer who testified to congress that he heard/saw evidence of a program to reverse engineer crashed ufos? He seems to have just disappeared from the face of the earth. No follow-up interviews or articles. Very strange. Calling David Grusch!
 
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FOXTROT LAMONT

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Cute lass Ms Luna is Mrs and three kids but back from maternity leave.
Somehow her suit-white shirt with loosely knoted red regimental collar neckscarf look
will never quite strum me heart strings the same. :(

who the hell is this Grusch anyway? I'm strictly a lunatick Mick. ;)
 

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Does this qualify as evidence of, well, something?
I had not heard of this Medical Records angle.
So, John Burroughs was one of those guys who got up close and personal to a UFO during the famous Rendlesham Forest incident in the U.K.
Apparently that encounter made him very sick.
For years Mr Burroughs sought disability coverage from the U.S. Military.
Finally, the Air Force gave him full disability coverage but with this strange twist: his medical records are classified.
What!? That’s weird.


As I said, I’d never heard of this before. So I did a little Google search of the news. It seems as though there IS something to this strange story.

https://www.rdrnews.com/news/nation...cle_22fde1e0-eac0-11ed-bb5f-a3db8e1a9427.html

The question remains: What does it all mean?
 

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So, on April 19 (above), there Was a sighting of a luminous unidentified submerged object (USO) in the Gulf of Mexico.

Now we’ve got another one off the coast of Brazil. What is interesting here, is that the camera pans over to the setting sun. So you can see that the supposed undersea light is not a random sunbeam. What is it? I don’t know. For the sake of completeness, I’ll also provide the link to the original Brazilian article at the bottom.



Original story:
https://perrenguematogrosso.com/tra...steriosa-no-fundo-do-mar-doideira-veja-video/
 

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Another international ufo clip.
Multiple witnesses.
Multiple camera angles.
very clear: A UFO buzzes Tehran, Iran. A city with millions of people.

okay, okay. If the footage is blurry and out of focus, we say “it could be anything; it proves nothing. Why isn’t there any clear footage?”

Well, these shots ARE clear. So we say: “It is too good to be true. Must be fake. Must b CGI.”

 
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So, on April 19 (above), there Was a sighting of a luminous unidentified submerged object (USO) in the Gulf of Mexico.

Now we’ve got another one off the coast of Brazil. What is interesting here, is that the camera pans over to the setting sun. So you can see that the supposed undersea light is not a random sunbeam. What is it? I don’t know. For the sake of completeness, I’ll also provide the link to the original Brazilian article at the bottom.



Original story:
https://perrenguematogrosso.com/tra...steriosa-no-fundo-do-mar-doideira-veja-video/
I would want to know what happened??? Did the lights just disappear like they went out? Did the lights move away or appear to travel underwater? Seems to me the location could easily be identified & dove on. Did that happen?
 
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Another international ufo clip.
Multiple witnesses.
Multiple camera angles.
very clear: A UFO buzzes Tehran, Iran. A city with millions of people.

okay, okay. If the footage is blurry and out of focus, we say “it could be anything; it proves nothing. Why isn’t there any clear footage?”

Well, these shots ARE clear. So we say: “It is too good to be true. Must be fake. Must b CGI.”

Seems to me this craft wanted to be seen by the populous of Tehran. Leads me to think it is domestic technology of this earth, which leads me to think the source is likely an adversary of Iran. I think politics & propaganda.

Sounds like a pulse propulsion system if the audio is accurate.
 

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The object I saw some years ago was a flat-ended cylinder in shape, with a silver metallic surface. No texture or further details, apart from a single orange light on the "rear" end. It was slightly faster than a commercial airliner and moved in a straight line at medium altitude.

Size is difficult to estimate, but I would guess no longer than a small private jet, but possibly smaller.

There are a lot of planes in the sky where I live, due to my proximity to a major airport, so I am very familiar with all kinds of aircraft and with identifying them. What I saw was certainly no aircraft, and the way it moved also excluded the possibility a balloon. I cannot say it was alien, but with the technology which is known to the public, constructing such an object would be currently impossible.

If you would like to know more, feel free to ask questions. I do not claim to be an expert, but am willing to share any knowledge of the subject I have acquired if asked.
 

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The object I saw some years ago was a flat-ended cylinder in shape, with a silver metallic surface. No texture or further details, apart from a single orange light on the "rear" end. It was slightly faster than a commercial airliner and moved in a straight line at medium altitude.

Size is difficult to estimate, but I would guess no longer than a small private jet, but possibly smaller.

There are a lot of planes in the sky where I live, due to my proximity to a major airport, so I am very familiar with all kinds of aircraft and with identifying them. What I saw was certainly no aircraft, and the way it moved also excluded the possibility a balloon. I cannot say it was alien, but with the technology which is known to the public, constructing such an object would be currently impossible.

If you would like to know more, feel free to ask questions. I do not claim to be an expert, but am willing to share any knowledge of the subject I have acquired if asked.

Thanks for sharing your story. It takes courage to talk about it, since a lot of people jump straight to scoffing. Some questions:
Did you tell anyone about it at the time that it happened?
Any other witnesses? Was it mentioned in the press?
Have you had other similar experiences?
(Formerly, i was skeptical of repeat-experiencers, but now. —according to Gary Nolan and others who have studied this— it seems to be (maybe) valid… with experiences even running in families.)
Would you say you now have no doubts about the reality of UFOs?
 

Olumin

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Thanks for sharing your story. It takes courage to talk about it, since a lot of people jump straight to scoffing. Some questions:
Did you tell anyone about it at the time that it happened?
Any other witnesses? Was it mentioned in the press?
Have you had other similar experiences?
(Formerly, i was skeptical of repeat-experiencers, but now. —according to Gary Nolan and others who have studied this— it seems to be (maybe) valid… with experiences even running in families.)
Would you say you now have no doubts about the reality of UFOs?
I believe the only ones that know of this are my Family and a family friend. Apart from that I told no one. As I have no proof, I never saw the point in spreading the story. I am not trying to convince anyone; I understand very well where sceptics come from.

There were no other witnesses I’m aware of. The sighting was never publicized anywhere to my knowledge. I actually tried taking a picture with my phone at the time, but to no success. The object was too small, and against the bright sky the reflective object was not visible on the pictures. I understand very well now why most UFO pictures are so very bad.

Only some lights I saw moving in the night sky from time to time. But since I was not able to clearly see and identify them, those sightings don’t hold much importance to me. They were likely just satellites. The formerly described object was seen by me in broad daylight and in detail, so I was actually able to tell what it looked like, and as such can exclude it being anything more ordinary.

I have no doubt that there are artificial objects in our skies which utilize technology which is not known to the public. I am not absolutely sure that they are non-human. However, I believe that many of them are.

Human made "UFOs" seem to be shaped more aerodynamically and generally follow the rules of physics as we understand them. They don’t ignore air resistance or inertia, and are designed with that in mind. They don’t stop on a dime at Mach 50 and shoot up into space after that. Truly non-human objects seem to have no such concerns.

The common triangular UFOs, often reported with a light in each corner, are probably human made craft. They are shaped like a flying wing and seem to move in more conventional ways.

Alien objects can look like anything. Some might not even be technically physical objects at all. Often, they are simple geometric shapes. Spheres and cylinders are most often reported. Even teleportation or shape shifting is often reported. This technology is far ahead of ours, and many of these civilizations are probably millions of years older than our own. Considering the age of the universe, any given space faring civilization which can easily reach us, is statistically likely to be many millions of years more advanced, not just a few hundred or thousand.

Following the same logic, I don’t believe these beings to be at all dangerous. They have likely been around for millennia at the minium. Since they could destroy us in a moments notice, the fact we are still here is enough proof of their benevolence to me. These Aliens are probably more aggregable then most Humans. Any stories of "Aliens" in which humans were harmed or killed are likely fabricated. Our weapons would pose no danger to them, so defending themselves would be unnecessary too.
 
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Any 'aliens' existing in this plane of existence, regardless of how far they've supposedly travelled, would still be subject to the same physics as the rest of our physical universe. Mathematics points to at least 10, if not possibly 11, dimensions. We are able to access only 4: spatial height, depth, breadth, and one temporal, according to Einstein: time. It can be concluded that the UAPs are interdimensional, accessing dimensions we cannot. If they were simply physical objects, as our bodies and vehicles are, they would be constrained by the same physical laws.
 

Olumin

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It can be concluded that the UAPs are interdimensional, accessing dimensions we cannot. If they were simply physical objects, as our bodies and vehicles are, they would be constrained by the same physical laws.
That is actually how I believe their craft to function. Many of them might indeed originate from other dimensions, others might simply access those dimensions temporarily. This would also explain how they can travel regardless of medium, even under water. Stories of UFOs being shot at, and the shells passing through them with no effect. That’s why I’m so confused as to why these objects are even visible. If they were truly interdimensional, should they not be invisible? Basically, like a ghost? Yet we can see them, and even photograph them. Some of the time at least. I believe most of them actually are invisible, until they aren’t.
 

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