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NEWS BOY CAPS

Mr Badger

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DanielJones said:
Good looking lids Badger, you wear them well. :eusa_clap

Cheers!

Dan

Thanks Dan! Funny thing is that these Jaxon caps are US-made, but when we were in Memphis & New York City this Spring, I'd get asked "Where'd you get the cap?" several times each day! I kept explaining, "It's an American cap..." but no-one believed me!

Unfortunately, the UK retailer only carries black'n'brown Winter-weight versions - in the US, Jaxon have a huge range of linen Big Apple caps...
 

Yeps

Call Me a Cab
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Good look, although when I was scanning through the page it confused me immensely.
 

PsychoSheedah

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Hiya guys, I've been lurking here for quite a while although I am still a relative newbie to the 'hat scene'!

Just a quick query more than anything else, I am looking for a hat/cp similar to the one in the pic I have added below and also in a similar colour/material..

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Any ideas on what I'm looking for?

It doesnt seem like an ordinary newsboy hat; is it more of a tweed ivy cap..?

Any help would be most appreciated..

Thank you!
 

DAJE

One of the Regulars
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Melbourne, Australia
PsychoSheedah said:
Any ideas on what I'm looking for?

It doesnt seem like an ordinary newsboy hat; is it more of a tweed ivy cap..?

Any help would be most appreciated..

Thank you!

That's knitted wool. "Tweed" is not knitted, it's woven into a cloth and then sewn. So that hat is not tweed.

The problem with the names of styles is that people misuse them so much that it makes internet searching very difficult. It's all very well to be looking for a particular style of cap, but if any and all names are applied to any and all styles, you pretty much have to look through everything to find what you want.

The cap in the picture isn't a newsboy. That style might be called:
Flat cap
Cabby cap
Driver / driving cap
Golf cap
Ivy
...and no doubt many more names for variations on that general style.

But, as I say, a clueless seller might call it a Gatsby or a newsboy, or just about anything else hat-related, including "Fedora".

I'd be Googling phrases like "knit flat cap" to find something like that. Good luck.
 

PsychoSheedah

New in Town
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DAJE said:
That's knitted wool. "Tweed" is not knitted, it's woven into a cloth and then sewn. So that hat is not tweed.

The problem with the names of styles is that people misuse them so much that it makes internet searching very difficult. It's all very well to be looking for a particular style of cap, but if any and all names are applied to any and all styles, you pretty much have to look through everything to find what you want.

The cap in the picture isn't a newsboy. That style might be called:
Flat cap
Cabby cap
Driver / driving cap
Golf cap
Ivy
...and no doubt many more names for variations on that general style.

But, as I say, a clueless seller might call it a Gatsby or a newsboy, or just about anything else hat-related, including "Fedora".

I'd be Googling phrases like "knit flat cap" to find something like that. Good luck.

hey thanks for that info! However I am still having no luck finding anything even remotely similar to this!

I've done a search of all the suggestions you made!

If anyone knows of any particular sites that I may be able to purchase one of these then please let me know!

Thanks again!
 

Charlie Huang

Practically Family
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Birmingham, UK
Gah! My cap from the Hat People is delayed because HMRC has held it (no doubt to slap a custom charge on it) and now with all the snow and Christmas I am unlikely to get it until the new year (it arrived in the UK on the 17th Dec) and after I fork out the bail money to release it from Parcel Farce's custody... Grrrrr!
 

coble

A-List Customer
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432
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houston
black sheep hat works, i will post a photo of the hat he made off an old newsboy pattern, stunning hat. I say give Bob Jesse a ring, or send him an e-mail. The hat is lined, and with a leather sweatband, and looks as classic as can be.
 

Adnamira

A-List Customer
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Woop Woop, Australia
I've read a few posts in this thread about people getting hat people caps and deciding they didn't like the way it sat after the first wearing. These are a few pictures to demonstrate the way my cap from hat people settled and shaped after wearing. I didn't attempt to shape this cap, but just let it make up it's own mind about how to sit on my head. You can see the fabric has draped differently after I've worn it. The cotton lining in my cap tended to push the wool out and make it puffy in the beginning, but it has folded around my head and let the wool drape more. The cap is continuing to change in shape since these photos and I am liking it very much, though I wasn't sure in the beginning. It is the same for felt hats though. They never look right when you first get them, I reckon. I am getting more hat people caps, mostly for the reason that they have cotton linings. Satin linings work alright in felt hats, because the satin doesn't really touch your skin, but in caps I find it uncomfortable because they feel really sticky when you sweat in them as the material touches your head more. I also like the non-stiffened brim, because it shapes to your forehead, regardless of how you wear it and it wraps around your temples.


100_5331 by Adnamira, on Flickr


Picture 102 by Adnamira, on Flickr


Picture 101 by Adnamira, on Flickr

The folds between the panels have become more rippled and accentuated since I took these photos. I think the wool used in the fabric of these hats effect the look a great deal. I think Pendleton might be a more of a Merino style of wool compared to the harris tweed style fabrics. Merino wool can also vary depending on the breeding of the sheep - deep bold crimping merino wools produce a silkier form shaping fabric, whereas high crimp frequency wools produce a fabric that is stiffer; ie, sits up off the shoulders more in men's suits.
 

Equality 7-2521

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Norðweg
I must remember to stay away from the wrong side of town

No lasting serious damage I hope?

I seen that it's been a year or two since the lament of not finding hats that reproduce the lines and flair of the 1920s cap mentioned earlier in this thread. Are there any new makers now that are perhaps doing so?
 

Adnamira

A-List Customer
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Location
Woop Woop, Australia
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One minor yet inexplicable difference between vintage 1920s-'30s caps and modern ones is the size of their crown button. Vintage caps had a small button; modern caps have a larger one.


Small button on vintage cap:

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Larger button on modern cap:

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I find this amazing. I mean I read this a lot on the Fedora Lounge about the authenticity in the look of different newsboy caps made now compared to the ones made at certain dates of by-gone days. But surely, when newsboys were more commonly worn, there would have been more people making them, and there would have been at least some variety in size and style and shape of different aspects of these caps.
 

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