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Negan's Jacket

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I've enjoyed TWD up until now - if I recall the second or third season was pretty poor, but it really picks up. It stops being about zombies, more about the living threats to them.

I've loved every series - been following itg from the off, after a few years of following the comic boot and wishing they'd do a TV series.... I hope they keep it going for some time yet, though I suspect we'll see it wound up after another series or two dispatches with the (first) big Negan storyline. They can always, of course, follow it on with the Fear series, or other, as yet unseen, spin-offs. It'll be interesting to see (whether in comic or on-screen) they ever kill off Rick. I think that would be really interesting to see, see how the group would carry on after him. Will Carl inherit leadership, or someone else. How would they be appointed? How does 'politics' evolve again in this new world? Some great themes about law and order and the nature of society could be looked at there.

Oh, I didn't mean trash-trash, just that the overall direction of most shows goes south. I mean, take House. The character from the first season is literally a completely different person compared to the second season onward.

You're not big on character development, then? ;) :p

I'm wondering how easy it is for Negan to wash Glenn's blood off his jacket...

You should know - "...a little water clears us of this deed." ;)

The showrunners have a habit of playing a bit loose with the original comic book, but if your gf checks, she'll see who was marked out for death. It's a brutal show as far as fan loyalty goes. There is little point in becoming too fond of anyone, as it usually means they'll be killed in some horrific way. Denise the nurse, for instance, gave a fantastic rallying speech to two other characters, and was rewarded for her efforts with a crossbow bolt through her eye!

I'm intrigued to see whether they do follow the book or not. Artistically, it seems to be the one that makes most sense (though, not having subscription TV, I'm still waiting for the series to come to terrestrial - only seen up to Season 5 so far), but we'll have to see. It's the sort of thing they might well change for this, though I do lean to the view that it needs to be one of the really core group. For me, Abraham is still not enough of a core character for it to have the same impact. I was gobsmacked when they did it in the comic book. A really strong turn of the story.

I'm not convinced it was Glenn. Yes, I know that Negan kills Glenn in the comic book. On the other hand, Abraham was supposed to receive the arrow instead of Denise. Therefore, I suspect that the producers may have preserved Abraham for Negan. Consistent with the comic books, the producers have shown a willingness to kill *almost* anyone. On the other hand, they have never killed anyone as popular as Glenn. With tens/hundreds of millions of dollars hanging in the balance, the producers might not be willing to polarize a significant portion of their fan base by killing Glenn. Abraham's demise is much more palatable to most. Makes for fun speculation. It will be interesting to watch the reports when filming of the next season commences . . . fans will be closely watching who shows up, and does not show up, at the Atlanta area film sites.

I'm hoping they don't let raw commerciality dictate this - things are never as good when they sedcond guess solid story-telling with "but what do the fans want?".

Course, whomever it is might still show up for flashback sequences when they resume filming (as did Merle, Lori and others).

Well the producers have not killed Daryl and he doesn't last long in the comics. Andrea and Sofia were alive in the comics on the "Negan era" but they are dead in the tv show long ago.

Darryl ain't in the comics at all - nor will he be, Kirkland has confirmed that. There's a character who came into the comic shortly after him who is sorta vaguely but not really like him, but I doubt that guy will turn up in the same form in the TV show now.

Carol in the TV version is, broadly speaking, the character that Andrea turned out to be in the comic. I like that they keep it different, though - means I can read both and not have one 'spoiler' the other.
 

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Interesting jacket there. What's the deal with the kind of...flap at the back? It looks like the back is longer but snaps up to shorten...? Never seen that before.

edit: Or maybe that's just a rivet...? Can't figure that out.
 

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Interesting jacket there. What's the deal with the kind of...flap at the back? It looks like the back is longer but snaps up to shorten...? Never seen that before.

edit: Or maybe that's just a rivet...? Can't figure that out.

I think it's either a double-thick panel for the kidneys, or maybe it's like a giant belt loop that covers the entire back of the jacket. Not sure; haven't seen this style back in person. There's a few vintage Sears and Hercules jackets on eBay that also have this style back, but I've never encountered one in person.
 

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I have that style of back on a Johnson D pocket (I'm the third owner, but it was made within the last ten years). It doesn't undo down like a flap - the studs are for cosmetic effect only - though in place of the front halfbelt you see on the likes of a Schott 618, mine has a full (and fully removeable) belt which slips round through that, so I imagine that's it's chief function - aside form looking cool, of course.

Interesting that the front buckle on this one is a sldier, and looks like it might be leather-covered - I've never seen that on an America jacket before. On this side of the Atlantic, when Lewis introduced the Bronx (deliberately named, I believe, to nod to the American influenced on this design) in 1956, they put this style of buckle on the front halfbelt in order to stop it scratching a bike's tank: bear in mind that whereas American bikes of that era tended to be designed around the rider sitting in a fairly upright position, Brit bikes weresuch that riders tended to be much more hunched over the tank. Later jackets, such as the Lightning (introduced by Lewis in 1958) featured instead side-buckles for this reason, and you'll see those much more commonly on British bike jackets from the early 60s onwards.

I wodner was there a German influence on the jacket posted above, as these leather-covered buckles are something I've seen on (albeit longer) German jackets gonig way back.
 

Edward

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Yes, it does. Don't know if it's a halfbelt or one through a tube like my Johnson, but it looks the same as this certainly.
 

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