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Neck pain?

Loncster

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Hey yall. I've noticed something with almost all of my aeros. I always get neck pain when i'm wearing my aero. The pain is unbearable. I started to think that there are some problems with the measurements or the way they were made, A jacket is supposed to rest on your shoulders.. But not neck?
Just wondering if any of yall had this issue before?
 

MrProper

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The neckline at the back is approx. 1 cm higher with Aero than with other manufacturers (which is why I need 1 cm more back length than with others, because this is measured from the collar seam).
If there is a little tension, e.g. due to high armholes, this puts more pressure on the neck.
That's my theory.
I had this with a jacket whose base size was actually too small for me. The armpits pulled the jacket down at the front and then there was pressure on the neck. I don't normally have this with other Aeros. Rarely when I'm sitting for a long time. But my posture is different there too.
 

Canuck Panda

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Many of Aero's models has the "shirt" style collar. They're not the most comfortable especially in stiffer leather. There are models that are not the shirt style collar too.

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The brown jacket has the shirt style collar where the neck hole is forward rotated by almost an inch or 2mm. The black jacket has what I would consider jacket style collar where the neck hole is the normal standing position.

It's pretty easy to spot which kind of neck line a jacket has. If the back neck line makes a smile shape you are safe. Circle or frown neck line usually indicates its a shirt style collar and is rotated foward.

If you are buying the jackets used you can also see how it hangs on the hanger. If the collar is wrapping up the hanger then it's most likely a shirt style collar. If there is a gap between the hanger and jacket collar then you're safe.
EDIT*** Jacket on the left would have the "shirt" collar, middle and right jackets are the "jacket" collar.
cal vs modern cal.jpg


Just move the uncomfortable jackets along. It will fit someone with a different shape just fine.
 
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onstar

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Many of Aero's models has the "shirt" style collar. They're not the most comfortable especially in stiffer leather. There are models that are not the shirt style collar too.

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The brown jacket has the shirt style collar where the neck hole is forward rotated by almost an inch or 2mm. The black jacket has what I would consider jacket style collar where the neck hole is the normal standing position.

It's pretty easy to spot which kind of neck line a jacket has. If the back neck line makes a smile shape you are safe. Circle or frown neck line usually indicates its a shirt style collar and is rotated foward.

If you are buying the jackets used you can also see how it hangs on the hanger. If the collar is wrapping up the hanger then it's most likely a shirt style collar. If there is a gap between the hanger and jacket collar then you're safe.
EDIT*** Jacket on the left would have the "shirt" collar, middle and right jackets are the "jacket" collar.
View attachment 652970

Just move the uncomfortable jackets along. It will fit someone with a different shape just fine.


How can you tell smile or frown face? from the back or front?

And yes OP, i have problems with the neck. You can check my old posts
 

Canuck Panda

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Shirt collars isn’t the end of the world. There are many different ways of doing them. The old Cal uses the butterflied seams which won’t be as bulky so you don’t really feel that seam as much. Aero uses a fold over then top stitched seam which is double the thickness there, but there are other jackets that are similar as well. In this case you could just fold the collar more backwards like I did, it’ll push that thicker seam towards the outside. You can start the day with a frown but sort of smiling by the days end…
butterfly vs fold over topstitch.jpeg
 

Marc mndt

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Many of Aero's models has the "shirt" style collar. They're not the most comfortable especially in stiffer leather. There are models that are not the shirt style collar too.

View attachment 652936
View attachment 652937

The brown jacket has the shirt style collar where the neck hole is forward rotated by almost an inch or 2mm. The black jacket has what I would consider jacket style collar where the neck hole is the normal standing position.

It's pretty easy to spot which kind of neck line a jacket has. If the back neck line makes a smile shape you are safe. Circle or frown neck line usually indicates its a shirt style collar and is rotated foward.

If you are buying the jackets used you can also see how it hangs on the hanger. If the collar is wrapping up the hanger then it's most likely a shirt style collar. If there is a gap between the hanger and jacket collar then you're safe.
EDIT*** Jacket on the left would have the "shirt" collar, middle and right jackets are the "jacket" collar.
View attachment 652970

Just move the uncomfortable jackets along. It will fit someone with a different shape just fine.
This may or may not be true for Aero patterns but stating it as a general rule is just total nonsense. My original Buco J-24 and Durable mc jackets have the 'shirt style' collar. The leather is unskived and no 'butterfly seam' construction either yet they're amongst the most comfortable jackets you can find. These are just two examples, I can give you many.
 
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Lol, I was about to say the same thing.

@Canuck Panda, I'm sorry & I know you're trying contribute but that collar theory of yours is... No.

These are all shirt collars that you have posted. The downward curvature you are seeing at the back of the collar means that the collar is lower & thus fits closer to the neck, tighter and lays flatter than the straight collar. This type of collar is called shaped collar.
So, following your theory, this type of collar should be less comfortable than the regular, straight collar but it's not. Neither type is as the shape of the collar itself has nothing to do with how comfortable it will be because it's not the top of the collar that pushes into the neck - it's the angle of the collar combined, in equal measure, with a wearers posture, as @MrProper noted.
 

TartuWolf

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I can also comment that if I pull my shoulders back ("correct" posture) then the neck pressure is alleviated, while it is definitely noticeable if I slump. Wearing a scarf also helps.
 

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