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MEN'S PAJAMAS and DRESSING GOWNS

rubyredlocks

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I collect smoking jackets for my husband and buy him a pair of satin pjs for Christmas every year.
What I really need to find are some nice slippers.
 

Edward

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Baron Kurtz said:
Funny, i prefer a drawstring. M & S do some pretty decent pyjamas in 100% cotton. Either drawstring or button at the waist. (obviously you can't get M & S in Ohio, but Penney's or Sears or whomever no doubt do similar things.)

Yeah, M&S are what I thuoght of first too.... they also do a range of dressing gowns to match their pjs, cut in (what looks to my eyes at least to be) a very classic style, all cotton, shawl collar. Seems considerably harder to find winter weight alternatives in a vintage style - predominantly all fleece etc.
 

scotrace

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These are some beautiful suggestions.

I think Tomasso's Sulka pajamas are the best I've seen. (If I may repost)

Shoes547.jpg


I started watching eBay for Sulka items when that first appeared. A few have come and gone, but always dressing gowns, and always north of $500.
 

Brian Sheridan

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I just received a pair of Derek Rose of Saville Row pajamas in white twill. Sierra Trading Post has/had them for a deep, deep discount. The retail price (nowhere near what I paid for them) is about $275. They are well made, and very very comfortable.

PS - but they are not as cool as those Sulkas.
 

BegintheBeguine

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Twitch said:
If ya wanna be real era get a night shirt and night cap:)
My sister has bid for all the ones I made for my dad, in flannel.
Flitcraft said:
you'll be the best dressed man in the boudoir
How many men are in that boudoir?
The National was a nice clothing store in Rochester and I recently picked up a beautiful black and red silk dressing gown they made, from the Salvation Army. Reminds me of The Thin Man one. No man around to wear it, however, but that's ever stopped me from buying a bargain.
 

cooncatbob

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Twitch said:
Pajamas are just pajamas without any fashion statement. They are utilitarian and functional. You can pick all sorts of gauges of thickness and quality of material for comfort and/or remove the top if desired.

If ya wanna be real era get a night shirt and night cap:)

Something like these?
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3PieceSuitGuy

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One of the sponsored links looks like they have good pajamas

http://www.hillesodesigns.com/htdocs/menspajamas.html

otherwise do what I have done. Buy a pattern off ebay as they are authentic patterns from the era, buy some silk and have someone - a family member or a good tailor - make them up for you.

Here is the link to mens vintage sewing patterns.

http://collectibles.listings.ebay.c...QfromZ1883QQsacatZ4160QQsocmdZListingItemList

Good to see someone else interested in classic pj's and robes!!!

Cheers

Peter
 

Jovan

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I had no idea those had cuffs on them. Reminds me of this Brooks Brothers women's "oxford" nightshirt complete with cuffs and button down collar -- but they could achieve the same look with a significant other's or thrift store shirt. lol
 

Marty M.

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Thanks for the news.

Tomasso said:
Derek Rose makes classically styled sleepwear and although no longer made in England still appears well made.
Shoes557.jpg

I had no idea that they weren't made in England anymore. I tried fairly unsuccessfully selling them some years back. I'd like to get them back again. Maybe I can unsuccessfully sell them again. [huh]
 

Jovan

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I only own a couple pairs of knit pyjama bottoms. I hardly ever wear them besides when it gets very cool in winter. Otherwise, it's usually the underwear I wore all day, or nothing at all. :p I could get into them if I found something simple, comfy, and 100% cotton. Like the picture scotrace posted, but in a solid colour. That edge detail is pretty nice.
 

Zastrozzi

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Fortnum & Mason do some splendid nightwear (and there's me thinking they just sold food...) Yesterday I fell in love with a selection of beautiful silk full-length dressing gowns. Unfortunately, at prices starting from £900, this particular affair will have to remain unrequited for the foreseeable future.

www.fortnumandmason.com - although the men's nightwear page doesn't seem to be working today.
 

cookie

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Pyjamas/Pajamas

Article from the Spectator:

Paul JohnsonWednesday, 14th May 2008What kind of pyjamas did President Kennedy wear in bed?

When I was a child of four or five my big sisters told me edifying stories about the rise of the British empire, which then occupied a quarter of the earth’s surface. A favourite villain was Tippoo Sahib, Sultan of Mysore, a ‘little monster’ who was son of a ‘big monster’, Hyder Ali. Tippoo was known as ‘Tiger’ (like Stanley Baldwin) and hated Englishmen, and put to death any he captured in fiendish ways. He was finally put down, by the future Duke of Wellington, in the battle of Seringapatam, being killed in the process, leaving behind an immense pile of silver, gold, jewels and toys. Among the last was a mechanical tiger (himself) rending the prostrate body of an Englishman and emitting ferocious growls. It still works and is in the V&A, though the growls have become a bit husky.

More important, however, was Tippoo’s wardrobe, which likewise passed into British hands, and included many sets of pyjamas. These were then unknown in England, though common in the Orient, especially in Turkey, Persia and India, where they were worn at any time of day, not just at night. The word is Urdu and means foot or clothing, and in transliteration can be spelt in over a hundred different ways. (The Americans always spell it pajamas.) Some English officers found the garments convenient for the hot Indian nights, especially if made of cotton, though Wellington himself always stuck to his nightshirt. Gradually the habit spread. Thackeray, born in India, called them peijammahs and Medwin pigammahs. The first Viceroy to wear them was the Earl of Lytton, chiefly to annoy his wife (Lyttons and their spouses always quarrelled). But Curzon, when Viceroy, refused to follow suit and made the article the subject of one of his sayings: ‘Gentlemen never wear pyjamas.’

By then, however, at home in England, the pyjama was fast ousting the nightshirt for male nightwear and — an astonishing thing — was even being worn by certain upper-class ladies, such as Lady Desborough and other female ‘Souls’. Their daughters, known as the ‘Corrupt Coterie’, were pyjama girls to a woman, Lady Diana Cooper setting the pace. Of course, once women began to wear pyjamas, the awesome — dreadful — possibility opened up of pyjama parties. When was the first? The earliest recorded was given in Chicago by a well-known society hostess there, Mrs Edwin Avon, and duly reported in London by a shocked Westminster Gazette. They spread to England during the war, and were a favourite form of entertainment among the ‘Bright Young People’ (see Vile Bodies). No one knew what the girls wore under their pyjamas. As Lady Anchorage darkly and confusedly put it: ‘Pyjamas are an excuse for concealed nudity.’

When I was a teenager my mother told me to beware of girls who wore pyjamas, as they were likely to be ‘bold’. I had no objections to bold girls, actually, but was not going to say so. When I was in my last year at Oxford, I had digs in the Iffley Road, run by a Mrs Norris, a fierce and strict lady always known as Aunt Norris, after the character in Mansfield Park. She would never allow girls in the digs but she made an exception for a pretty friend of mine called Betty Bingley, known as Grable because of her long, beautiful legs. The blonde must have put a spell on Aunt Norris, because when I was working late in the library, she was allowed to come in and wait for me in my room. She would get undressed and put on my pyjamas, and I would find her placidly lying in bed, her golden tresses spread over the pillows, reading Thucydides’ Peloponnesian War (in Greek of course), usually the bit about the Syracuse stone quarries in Book VII, and sipping a mug of Horlicks supplied by Aunt Norris and liberally laced with brandy ‘to keep out the cold’. I suppose Betty was ‘bold’.

Girls called pyjamas ‘pidgies’ in those days. They were thought not quite proper at some boarding schools, where nightdresses, or nighties, were de rigueur. On the other hand, some men would not, or did not, wear them either. Churchill, for instance, rejected them, not for the reason given by Curzon but because ‘I have such a tender skin that I can only wear silk next to it’, and put on at night a vest only, which did not come down to his waist. His doctor, Lord Moran, noted in his diaries while sharing sleeping quarters with Churchill in an uncomfortable bombing aircraft or one of their trips to a wartime conference, that the Prime Minister complained of both the heat and the cold but made no attempt to alter his attire, Moran catching glimpses of ‘a large, fat white bottom’.

By contrast, Dr Mousadeq, the postwar Iranian demagogue, the first Persian politician to raise the nationalist flag against Britain’s control of the country’s oil industry, was an outstanding pyjama man. In those days, the early Fifties, we were not obliged, happily, to take the Iranians too seriously, and Mousadeq was much relished as a delightfully comic figure. He usually made his pronouncements, or gave newspaper interviews, wearing a pair of pyjamas. Of course in Persia pyjamas were perfectly normal daytime wear, before the adoption of Western suits, but it is not clear that the old boy, who had a long lugubrious nose and melancholy face, and delighted to raise a laugh among Western newsmen, wore pyjamas for nationalist reasons. Indeed, he appeared to spend much of his time in bed. His pyjamas, moreover, were the thick striped kind worn by English boys at boarding schools — I had identical pairs — and Sir Marcus Sieff, chairman of Marks & Spencer, used to claim that Mousadeq had ‘obviously had them sent out from our shop in Oxford Street’. Mr Attlee, then Prime Minister, said that the pyjamas were ‘remarkably similar to my own’. Eventually the Americans, fed up with British dithering, staged a coup and Mr Mousadeq was forced to run for it, still wearing his pidgies. The Shah took over. I once interviewed him for TV, on his houseboat tethered to a jetty in the Caspian Sea. I looked anxiously for any sign of pyjamas, but could see none, though I discovered that the pram in which the infant crown prince reposed had solid gold fittings. The mullah who currently tyrannises Iran wears sombre ecclesiastical nightshirts.

Why Churchill did not wear silk pyjamas is a mystery to me. Twenty years ago, my friend Carla brought me back from China a present of a fine silk pair of pyjamas. I have worn them ever since ‘for best’, i.e. going to weekend house-parties, trips to Venice or on cruise liners etc. They are still absolutely perfect, as good as new, and evoke admiration from butlers, grooms of the chambers, chambermaids and others who glimpse them. I also have an amazingly thick pair, of a savage dark red, made of Cumberland wool, which were bought in the Lake District during a Wordsworth conference — the sort of garment worn by John and Roger, I imagine, in Swallows and Amazons, quite possibly by Nancy, too, though I suspect she preferred to sleep naked, for bravado. Today, I’m told, most girls under 25 also prefer to be bare in bed, though they put on sexy nightdresses for special occasions. The lads wear vests like Churchill, though not of silk, and boxer shorts. So pyjamas in the West have lasted only 100 years. What is needed is another Coco Chanel, who designed fancy pidgies for men and persuaded even ‘Bendor’ Westminster to wear them.
 

Lulu-in-Ny

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I concur. Something so civilized about a man in pajamas. However, nothing I can do will ever get my boyfriend to wear them; his comment is "I'm not getting dressed to go to bed". Hmph.
 

jawisher

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I also agree. I do wear pajamas, mainly to lounge in. There is nothing more comfortable to wear around the house when relaxing.
 

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