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Master supply co leather jacket
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This is a reply to a thread that was apparently closed before I could respond, in which @ton312 ended by posting a comparison of the jacket I purchased from Master Supply Co. with others from Rugged West. https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/master-supply-co.110319/page-5
It’s funny how often “this is self-evident in photos” gets treated as an airtight argument, as though quality can be determined solely from a couple of static images. Stitching assessments, particularly in leather jackets—as I am learning—depend on far more than just symmetry in a product shot. I’m no expert, but my understanding is that leather temper, construction technique, and long-term durability all factor in. Yet, in this discussion, photographs are being positioned as an absolute metric of quality, as if freezing a moment in time somehow provides the full story of a garment’s craftsmanship.
I’ve gone through all these questions, one way or another, with people who’ve guided me in the process. Take the Master Supply Co. jacket, for instance. It’s made from 1.5mm vegetable-tanned leather—a thick, full-grain material that breaks in and develops patina over time. Any natural waviness or texture isn’t a flaw; it’s a characteristic of a less processed, more organic hide.
The zigzag stitching—already a point of fixation in this thread—has been framed as a sign of inferior quality. But based on what I’ve learned in discussions with actual experts (who, notably, didn’t feel the need to prop up their authority through condescension), zigzag stitches are commonly used decoratively or for reinforcement in non-load-bearing areas. Their presence alone tells you nothing about a jacket’s durability or long-term performance. And looking at this specific photo—one I’ve already examined—it’s clear the zigzag stitches function as an aesthetic choice rather than a structural seam. Of course, that makes it a matter of style, which is ultimately a matter of taste. And as the saying goes, there’s no accounting for…
The same logic applies to the French seams used in this jacket’s construction. When a friend with more knowledge of leather jackets suggested I look into this, I did. The Master Supply Co. jacket employs French seams in key structural areas. As I understand it, French seams—unlike welted seams, which are often assumed to be superior simply because they are more visible—enclose raw edges within the fabric, creating a cleaner, more durable finish. They require more precision and effort than exposed seams, yet ironically, because they are less pronounced, they become an easy target for superficial critiques. This is another example of how judging construction quality based on photographs alone is misleading—French seams simply don’t stand out the way welted seams do, even though they are widely used in high-end leather jackets.
Other details, like the inner placket and buttonhole, show tight, even stitching, while the shoulder seams maintain a consistent stitch length without any obvious skipped stitches. The leather itself has a rugged texture, which could be mistaken for inconsistencies in craftsmanship, but that seems more like a characteristic of the material than a flaw in construction.
The comparison to the Rugged West (RW) jacket is similarly misleading. The claim that RW’s stitching is “more refined” might hold true in terms of aesthetic uniformity, but uniformity does not necessarily equate to higher craftsmanship.
The RW jacket appears to use thinner or more pliable leather, which is inherently easier to stitch in straight, uninterrupted lines. The assumption that welted seams are categorically better than French seams ignores the fact that different construction methods serve different design goals. Some might consider welted seams to be “cleaner,” but they are not inherently superior to flat-felled or French seams, both of which are commonly found in premium leather jackets. I was looking for a workwear aesthetic, which should be obvious given that this is a chore coat.
Similarly, the leather’s appearance is a matter of preference rather than an objective measure of quality. The RW jacket’s polished, uniform surface may look “refined,” but this could just as easily indicate heavy correction or treatment—processes that can limit the depth of patina development over time. By contrast, Master Supply Co.’s roughout and veg-tan options lean into a more rugged aesthetic designed to evolve with wear.
But all of this is secondary to the real issue with this entire argument: the failure to distinguish between aesthetic preference and actual craftsmanship. Pretending that one of these jackets is “objectively superior” ignores the reality that different construction methods and leather treatments serve different design goals. Not every jacket is meant to look like a meticulously polished reproduction of a vintage piece. Some are designed to evolve over time, emphasizing natural leather character rather than aiming for a showroom-perfect appearance straight out of the box.
This distinction—conveniently ignored in this discussion—is critical. Aesthetic preference does not equal superior craftsmanship. If someone prefers a sleek, refined look, that’s fine, but that doesn’t mean a jacket designed for a more rugged, broken-in aesthetic is of lesser quality. I’ve already said that the style of the jacket was a major factor in my decision. That this keeps getting ignored suggests that the goal here isn’t an honest discussion of quality—it’s about reinforcing a hierarchy of taste.
I say this because I’ve seen this same kind of reasoning play out before. I used to research other areas of craft, like 19th-century furniture. Again, I’m no expert here. But I learned that supposedly “objective” views on the details of any craft always require a degree of argument. They are not absolute. The way we define quality, authenticity, and craftsmanship is never as fixed as people like to pretend. In the case of antique furniture, what was once dismissed as crude or unrefined later became valued for its hand-finished irregularities. The “truth” about craft is always contingent on how we frame it, on which details we elevate as meaningful and which we choose to dismiss. This is precisely what’s happening here. The assumption that neat, uniform stitching in a photograph signals superior quality isn’t an absolute—it’s just a particular way of seeing, one that ignores the broader context of materials, construction, and intended use.
The yet bigger problem with this argument is how it leans on assumption rather than substance. Calling one jacket “superior” simply because it looks more uniform is a stretch, especially when some of the most respected heritage brands embrace hand-finished variances. Photos alone are not absolute proof of quality, because leather is dynamic—it stretches, breaks in, and develops character over time. A static image tells you nothing about durability or wear. The claim that Master Supply Co.’s stitching is sloppy is based on a highly selective reading of aesthetics rather than any real assessment of how the jacket is made.
Moreover, the idea that French seams signal lesser quality contradicts what I have learned about the reality of high-end tailoring. If we’re talking about “refinement,” French seams are actually more difficult to execute than welted seams. They provide a cleaner internal structure, eliminate raw edges, and add durability. Just because they aren’t as pronounced as welted seams doesn’t make them inferior—it means they are designed for a different effect.
The assertion that Master Supply Co. is inherently of lower quality also falls apart under scrutiny. The idea that one can make definitive judgments about leather quality without firsthand experience is pure speculation. If someone wants to claim that one jacket is objectively better, they should at least have direct experience with both. Instead, this argument isn’t about craftsmanship—it’s about selective gatekeeping, where one brand is deemed legitimate while another is dismissed outright, despite both being manufactured in Pakistan. This suggests less an argument about quality than about reinforcing a preferred narrative.
At the end of the day, I chose Master Supply Co. not out of blind allegiance but because I looked into it. I sought guidance elsewhere. This thread struck me as biased from the outset—and it still does. If others prefer RW, that’s fine. But let’s not pretend that eyeballing a couple of photos grants omniscient knowledge of construction quality.
The shill accusation is amusing because, if anything, I came into this thread expecting to find a reason not to buy the jacket. Instead, what stood out was how quickly Master Supply Co. was dismissed without direct experience. I’m not saying people have to like the jackets, but if the standard is, “We don’t need to handle it to know it’s bad,” that’s not an evaluation—that’s gatekeeping.
And if the best argument against my position is still “just look at the photos,” maybe it’s not the strength of my argument that’s the problem.
That said, I do appreciate your bringing up these details in a more substantive way than I have seen in this thread. In a broader sense, the points you make touch on concerns and questions I had about the jacket before purchasing. I went into this knowing I could send it back for a full refund—because, if nothing else, I’ve learned that photos are never enough. But beyond the product itself, there were other elements of the experience with Master Supply Co. that I found reassuring, including their transparency in answering my questions and their willingness to engage directly with customers.
It’s funny how often “this is self-evident in photos” gets treated as an airtight argument, as though quality can be determined solely from a couple of static images. Stitching assessments, particularly in leather jackets—as I am learning—depend on far more than just symmetry in a product shot. I’m no expert, but my understanding is that leather temper, construction technique, and long-term durability all factor in. Yet, in this discussion, photographs are being positioned as an absolute metric of quality, as if freezing a moment in time somehow provides the full story of a garment’s craftsmanship.
I’ve gone through all these questions, one way or another, with people who’ve guided me in the process. Take the Master Supply Co. jacket, for instance. It’s made from 1.5mm vegetable-tanned leather—a thick, full-grain material that breaks in and develops patina over time. Any natural waviness or texture isn’t a flaw; it’s a characteristic of a less processed, more organic hide.
The zigzag stitching—already a point of fixation in this thread—has been framed as a sign of inferior quality. But based on what I’ve learned in discussions with actual experts (who, notably, didn’t feel the need to prop up their authority through condescension), zigzag stitches are commonly used decoratively or for reinforcement in non-load-bearing areas. Their presence alone tells you nothing about a jacket’s durability or long-term performance. And looking at this specific photo—one I’ve already examined—it’s clear the zigzag stitches function as an aesthetic choice rather than a structural seam. Of course, that makes it a matter of style, which is ultimately a matter of taste. And as the saying goes, there’s no accounting for…
The same logic applies to the French seams used in this jacket’s construction. When a friend with more knowledge of leather jackets suggested I look into this, I did. The Master Supply Co. jacket employs French seams in key structural areas. As I understand it, French seams—unlike welted seams, which are often assumed to be superior simply because they are more visible—enclose raw edges within the fabric, creating a cleaner, more durable finish. They require more precision and effort than exposed seams, yet ironically, because they are less pronounced, they become an easy target for superficial critiques. This is another example of how judging construction quality based on photographs alone is misleading—French seams simply don’t stand out the way welted seams do, even though they are widely used in high-end leather jackets.
Other details, like the inner placket and buttonhole, show tight, even stitching, while the shoulder seams maintain a consistent stitch length without any obvious skipped stitches. The leather itself has a rugged texture, which could be mistaken for inconsistencies in craftsmanship, but that seems more like a characteristic of the material than a flaw in construction.
The comparison to the Rugged West (RW) jacket is similarly misleading. The claim that RW’s stitching is “more refined” might hold true in terms of aesthetic uniformity, but uniformity does not necessarily equate to higher craftsmanship.
The RW jacket appears to use thinner or more pliable leather, which is inherently easier to stitch in straight, uninterrupted lines. The assumption that welted seams are categorically better than French seams ignores the fact that different construction methods serve different design goals. Some might consider welted seams to be “cleaner,” but they are not inherently superior to flat-felled or French seams, both of which are commonly found in premium leather jackets. I was looking for a workwear aesthetic, which should be obvious given that this is a chore coat.
Similarly, the leather’s appearance is a matter of preference rather than an objective measure of quality. The RW jacket’s polished, uniform surface may look “refined,” but this could just as easily indicate heavy correction or treatment—processes that can limit the depth of patina development over time. By contrast, Master Supply Co.’s roughout and veg-tan options lean into a more rugged aesthetic designed to evolve with wear.
But all of this is secondary to the real issue with this entire argument: the failure to distinguish between aesthetic preference and actual craftsmanship. Pretending that one of these jackets is “objectively superior” ignores the reality that different construction methods and leather treatments serve different design goals. Not every jacket is meant to look like a meticulously polished reproduction of a vintage piece. Some are designed to evolve over time, emphasizing natural leather character rather than aiming for a showroom-perfect appearance straight out of the box.
This distinction—conveniently ignored in this discussion—is critical. Aesthetic preference does not equal superior craftsmanship. If someone prefers a sleek, refined look, that’s fine, but that doesn’t mean a jacket designed for a more rugged, broken-in aesthetic is of lesser quality. I’ve already said that the style of the jacket was a major factor in my decision. That this keeps getting ignored suggests that the goal here isn’t an honest discussion of quality—it’s about reinforcing a hierarchy of taste.
I say this because I’ve seen this same kind of reasoning play out before. I used to research other areas of craft, like 19th-century furniture. Again, I’m no expert here. But I learned that supposedly “objective” views on the details of any craft always require a degree of argument. They are not absolute. The way we define quality, authenticity, and craftsmanship is never as fixed as people like to pretend. In the case of antique furniture, what was once dismissed as crude or unrefined later became valued for its hand-finished irregularities. The “truth” about craft is always contingent on how we frame it, on which details we elevate as meaningful and which we choose to dismiss. This is precisely what’s happening here. The assumption that neat, uniform stitching in a photograph signals superior quality isn’t an absolute—it’s just a particular way of seeing, one that ignores the broader context of materials, construction, and intended use.
The yet bigger problem with this argument is how it leans on assumption rather than substance. Calling one jacket “superior” simply because it looks more uniform is a stretch, especially when some of the most respected heritage brands embrace hand-finished variances. Photos alone are not absolute proof of quality, because leather is dynamic—it stretches, breaks in, and develops character over time. A static image tells you nothing about durability or wear. The claim that Master Supply Co.’s stitching is sloppy is based on a highly selective reading of aesthetics rather than any real assessment of how the jacket is made.
Moreover, the idea that French seams signal lesser quality contradicts what I have learned about the reality of high-end tailoring. If we’re talking about “refinement,” French seams are actually more difficult to execute than welted seams. They provide a cleaner internal structure, eliminate raw edges, and add durability. Just because they aren’t as pronounced as welted seams doesn’t make them inferior—it means they are designed for a different effect.
The assertion that Master Supply Co. is inherently of lower quality also falls apart under scrutiny. The idea that one can make definitive judgments about leather quality without firsthand experience is pure speculation. If someone wants to claim that one jacket is objectively better, they should at least have direct experience with both. Instead, this argument isn’t about craftsmanship—it’s about selective gatekeeping, where one brand is deemed legitimate while another is dismissed outright, despite both being manufactured in Pakistan. This suggests less an argument about quality than about reinforcing a preferred narrative.
At the end of the day, I chose Master Supply Co. not out of blind allegiance but because I looked into it. I sought guidance elsewhere. This thread struck me as biased from the outset—and it still does. If others prefer RW, that’s fine. But let’s not pretend that eyeballing a couple of photos grants omniscient knowledge of construction quality.
The shill accusation is amusing because, if anything, I came into this thread expecting to find a reason not to buy the jacket. Instead, what stood out was how quickly Master Supply Co. was dismissed without direct experience. I’m not saying people have to like the jackets, but if the standard is, “We don’t need to handle it to know it’s bad,” that’s not an evaluation—that’s gatekeeping.
And if the best argument against my position is still “just look at the photos,” maybe it’s not the strength of my argument that’s the problem.
That said, I do appreciate your bringing up these details in a more substantive way than I have seen in this thread. In a broader sense, the points you make touch on concerns and questions I had about the jacket before purchasing. I went into this knowing I could send it back for a full refund—because, if nothing else, I’ve learned that photos are never enough. But beyond the product itself, there were other elements of the experience with Master Supply Co. that I found reassuring, including their transparency in answering my questions and their willingness to engage directly with customers.
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bigmanbigtruck
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At this rate, you’re probably gonna spend more time typing about master supply co than actually wearing the jacket.
The other thread got locked because the discussion wasn’t gonna go anywhere and in all likelihood this is gonna get locked too.
You haven’t even gotten the jacket yet, just generated wall after wall of text. Come back after you’ve gotten to wear it and put your money where your mouth is. Then you can educate everyone on here rather than give MSC empty praise.
The other thread got locked because the discussion wasn’t gonna go anywhere and in all likelihood this is gonna get locked too.
You haven’t even gotten the jacket yet, just generated wall after wall of text. Come back after you’ve gotten to wear it and put your money where your mouth is. Then you can educate everyone on here rather than give MSC empty praise.
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Ah yes, the “too many words” complaint—again. And sure, let’s pretend I’m the reason the thread was locked. Lol.
What’s funny is how unaware you and others on that thread seem of how this all looks from the outside. The logic of bullying is always the same: mock, dismiss, pile on, then act bewildered when someone doesn’t just sit back and take it. You might not see it, but others will.
So keep it up. Because this was never just about a jacket. It’s about fairness and standing up to this kind of thing. But if the expectation here is that no one should push back, I’ve said what I needed to say. I’m good.
And since I know how this works, go ahead—keep talking. Convince yourselves you “won” because I don’t feel the need to respond. That’s the great thing about an echo chamber: it always sounds like you’re right.
So let’s just skip ahead: someone will post another quip, another performative dunk for the high-fives ("Yah bro!"). Gotta make sure the in-group sees you playing your part. Go for it. The floor is yours.
I'll be sure to post a laughing emoji on all the buffoonish follow-ups. Not getting baited into a non-dialogue. If you need the last word, take it—doesn’t change a thing.
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@wearever I can tell you haven't read the rules. That should have been the first thing you did when joining here. This is the rule you didn't read:
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"When a thread is locked, or a message deleted, do not attempt to continue the discussion in another thread. Normally, the specific reason for these actions will not be given. Sometimes the reason is obvious to most members; sometimes it may not be. The actions are done at the discretion of the bartenders to maintain the character of The Fedora Lounge."
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I have unlocked this Master Supply thread as well.
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Del did a good unbiased review i think. There are hundreds of reviews on trust pilot for this brand, mostly positive, so I don't think they can be all that bad. I may have to visit their show room in Toronto and see for myself.
You haven’t even received the jacket in your hands and you’re defending it so hard…..
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I took you off of ignore to see what you were up to and you do not disappoint. I can't even quote your message, it's so long.
A few points about the claims you have made here and on the other thread (and I am myself relatively new to leather):
1. If you really want a durable jacket, you want chrome tanned. A veg tanned jacket won't stand up to the elements like a chrome tanned will. Yet you seem to think veg-tanned is the end all be all of durability. It's not.
2. You say the following in defense of the large holes pointed out to you: "Leather that’s thick and full-grain doesn’t take small, delicate stitches the way a thinner, corrected leather does." This is just inaccurate and demonstrates a lack of engagement with true heritage quality leather makers, who regularly use tiny, pinpoint accurate stitching on even the thickest leather.
3. The term "full grain" is generally used by someone who really doesn't understand how nuanced the leather conversation is today. It says nothing whatsoever about the leather that is meaningful to anybody who knows about the various tanning methods, hide-splitting methods, or can compare tanneries, or knows even a smidgen about cowhide, horsehide, goathide etc. It's a term used by cheaper belt and shoe makers that honestly raises only suspicion in me.
4. You wax on and on in an insultingly pedagogical manner about how your jacket will develop patina over time as if that's a quality of leather this community needs to have taught to them. Man, have you seriously not looked at any other threads in this site except this one? Your tone is ridiculous.
5. Nothing I have ever read from you speaks to the issue of pattern at all. You talk about stylistic concerns but pattern is a functional concern and what others have pointed out as absurd is exactly this: you don't even have the jacket yet and the pattern could render you completely immobile or make you look like a cardboard box. Maybe the pattern will be great but you don't know that. And the fact that you don't know that you don't know that once again reveals someone who has little to no experience with leather clothing (because if you did know how important pattern is, you would be concerned enough about the possibility that the jacket will not fit you well to hold off defending it until you actually try it on). Arm movement is alway one of the key concerns, but you don't seem to be aware of it. Also collar and shoulder pattern is important because with a hide this heavy you don't want the weight being carried on your neck. Again, you would be concerned about that if you knew it. But you don't so you aren't.
6. I don't know enough about seams to know what's wrong with your arguments; but based on all your other fallacies I have no reason to trust any of your seam discussion, either (or even spend time reading it).
7. You state: "I'm not trying to defend the jacket or even my choice to purchase. I'm just sharing my rationale and my understanding of these details."
This is decidedly not what you have done. Instead you have attempted to chastise a community of individuals for being elitist because they have rejected this maker as inferior to the standards that they recognize as superior and worthy of their time, money and attention. You have done so without any demonstration of even a cursory knowledge of high end leather. And you have continued doing so even after you were shut down by the admins on another thread.
I won't be responding further. I don't care to get dinged by Peacoat for arguing with someone especially when it's pointless to argue with him. I won't even end with an insult though you have definitely earned an entire barrage of them.
I will recommend that you use this site to begin educating yourself on makers who actually produce heritage level quality. Once you realize how little you know, you might finally understand what an error you have made here.
And I will end with this: until you actually physically hold a jacket that is heirloom quality, you will never truly begin to know the difference in your conscience mind that the individuals you have insulted on this thread intuit in their sleep.
Enough words from me.
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I read it all and this is all I have left.
You can call it what you want or spin it the way that makes you feel comfortable.
I am looking forward to your review of the jacket once you have it. I would encourage you to take some quality detailed photos, as well as fit photos as they will be the most telling. A picture is worth a thousand words, so add 10.
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One thing I have noticed over the years here is that the more mediocre the maker, the more fierce the defenders. I‘ve seen this with Five Star, U.S. Authentic, and now Master Supply. This is a new wrinkle, though. I think this is the first time I’ve seen someone who has actually never actually handled nor wore the jacket extolling its virtues so vociferously.
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Ive read everything and somehow my eyes havent started bleeding. I happen to think theres a place for Master Supply. I am so far from elitist and in fact I welcome anyone into this realm and this market, I dont care where they are made (as long as its ethical as possible and not in slave like sweat shops) I dont care about stitch density or a lot of things people here do care about.
But brother come on you write novels, add as many multi-syllable words as you can think of. You dismiss, argue, put down, argue in circles and act as if you are the owner of Master Supply. As if youre intellect is so far superior and so sophisticated that we cant possibly understand your points. Yet somehow we are elitist? At the end of the day there is a place for Master Supply. Some of their suede and rough out stuff actually looks pretty good. Some of the stuff seems fairly priced for what it is. Some is way overpriced for what it is. But in no way is it equal to the majority of the brands discussed here. In no way is the leather good, the stitching precise and clean, the seams on the level of the top makers discussed here. In no way do they have "heritage." I like @ton312 dont even know nor care what that word means anymore anyway. They are a new company with substandard products for the most part, charging too much for what it is for most of the models. Does that make them a bad company, or does it mean folks shouldnt buy it if they like it and they can afford it? No way, knock yourself out. But just know no matter how many words you type or how passionately you argue no one here thinks they are an elite maker, they are better than anything, they can ever be on that level, no one thinks they can compete with any top dogs. They are an average newbie company with 95% products that fail to wow. Maybe they keep improving and one day we all say remember that random dude who joined just to argue about Master Supply? Guess they saw the future. The issue is your tone, your elitism in how you argue. You think reading books is some feather in your cap; comrade you should see my library haha. No one here cares. You could have said I like this jacket, Im buying it, Ill let you all know how it looks when it comes. No one says a word. Your attitude is the problem here. Im out.
Now I wrote an unnecessary novel that I expect no one to read and no one to care about. Because I am not special or entitled or think the more I write and the longer the words I use the smarter I am. Hopefully this gets through.
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AbbaDatDeHat
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PSA: Obit
I think…i think…He’s gone guys.
I believe the virus “Newby Knows” ran it’s course spectacularly and flame out was within 72 hrs after a hard fought battle that included an offer of the Anti-virus but alas, refused.
A near record for the virus demise and he will join the long list of “The Unknown Key Warriors” that were too smart for school.
A memorial (silent) will be held at the play ground in honor of all those flame outs before and after, that never got “You can’t fix stupid”.
Etc etc etc…blah blah blah
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I think…i think…He’s gone guys.
I believe the virus “Newby Knows” ran it’s course spectacularly and flame out was within 72 hrs after a hard fought battle that included an offer of the Anti-virus but alas, refused.
A near record for the virus demise and he will join the long list of “The Unknown Key Warriors” that were too smart for school.
A memorial (silent) will be held at the play ground in honor of all those flame outs before and after, that never got “You can’t fix stupid”.
Etc etc etc…blah blah blah
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AbbaDatDeHat
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The beauty of TFL is that we have all kinds here. There are guys who are only interested in vintage. There are guys who are only interested in high end Japanese repros of vintage. There are guys who are interested in "bulletproof" riding gear. There are guys who hunt for cheap Chinese jackets in search of value. There are guys who only do very high end, historically accurate custom. And there are guys who do a bit of all. So there is surely room for MS. My guess is that MS is neither great nor horrible - it is somewhere in between. Their advertising is annoying as hell to me and their offering unconvincing, but I would never knock them or those who buy their stuff. Go ahead, buy, but please come back with a review that includes A LOT of pics, both fit pics and detail. That's when TFL is at its best.
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Coming in here very late to the party
I wouldn’t personally buy the Master Supply Co jacket but reviewed it bc so many folks looking to spend less money seem averse to buying used. I reviewed the Daytona 224 and returned it, they sent me a Daytona Reload for free to review. They do seem to send a lot of free jackets to folks with an Instagram or YouTube channel in the space.
The MSCo jacket was much better than the cheap Thursday jacket I reviewed. And I liked the Daytona Reload significantly more than the fast fading 224. But it’s not better to my preference than say a used Schott, Aero, Vanson, etc. So it’s basically a premium price over the “mall” jackets with a design you might like better.
If you like the MSCo design you can get something similar from Five Star for cheaper, but then you’re handling design yourself. If you want to offload that onto someone else and just go buy a jacket, that feels like what MSCo is offering.
The 1.5mm hide on the Daytona reload is thick but very very soft. It kinda wants to wrinkle rather than crease or roll. It vibes more like thick lambskin than a robust cowhide…so less durable than you may expect but comfortable. Like a sweatshirt that looks like leather jacket.
I wouldn’t personally buy the Master Supply Co jacket but reviewed it bc so many folks looking to spend less money seem averse to buying used. I reviewed the Daytona 224 and returned it, they sent me a Daytona Reload for free to review. They do seem to send a lot of free jackets to folks with an Instagram or YouTube channel in the space.
The MSCo jacket was much better than the cheap Thursday jacket I reviewed. And I liked the Daytona Reload significantly more than the fast fading 224. But it’s not better to my preference than say a used Schott, Aero, Vanson, etc. So it’s basically a premium price over the “mall” jackets with a design you might like better.
If you like the MSCo design you can get something similar from Five Star for cheaper, but then you’re handling design yourself. If you want to offload that onto someone else and just go buy a jacket, that feels like what MSCo is offering.
The 1.5mm hide on the Daytona reload is thick but very very soft. It kinda wants to wrinkle rather than crease or roll. It vibes more like thick lambskin than a robust cowhide…so less durable than you may expect but comfortable. Like a sweatshirt that looks like leather jacket.
I think he is somehow affiliated with them.
