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Lost Worlds jackets.

flaminggroovy

New in Town
Messages
47
Location
holland
Hi...folks
My next target might be the Ryder jacket or the A2...
I bought the LW suburban dan downtown in HH..maybe 15 yrs ago....The leather still cracking and once a year I treat them with shoe polish ...
 
Messages
10,181
Location
Pasadena, CA
...The leather still cracking and once a year I treat them with shoe polish ...

I've wondered how many guys might have used this back in the day before all the fancy stuff. Might be why so many have such a great look today? I've contemplated this, but haven't had the cajones to try it. Any pics you could share?
 

Arnold

One of the Regulars
Messages
216
Location
Europe
Yes, Stuart is his own man and he is very clear about how he does business.

I respectfully disagree. Clear to me means transparent. Determined he is, and that's fair enough, but I have never dealt with anyone providing as little transparency as him. After he had declined to share his numbers for chest and "regular" sleeve length, and after ignoring my subsequent request for _loosely_ classing the shoulder drape in a photo of me wearing a similar jacket relative to how he expected his sizes 38 and 40 to drape on me, he apparently started cutting my jacket (which had been fully paid for about six weeks at that point) to solely his own assessment of what size and sleeve length I'd need.

Further, he didn't even notify me of his having done so until I asked what the status was after a week of radio silence. (To put this in context: there is no more of the specific textile material to make another jacket. Can't just resell and get another.)
Worst tho, after he had previously stated that optional "non-rider" sleeve length (10% surcharge vs. "regular") was 24" (unless I specified something different, which I however felt still unable to without the aforementioned info), he now states it as 23.5". This now sounds too short for me. I had paid for customization because I have a bit shorter than average arms and plan to use the jacket for work rather than riding, but after he revised his initial size 40 and even 42 (!) recommendations to 38, and even more after he had stated the 24" sleeve length, I got in serious doubt as to whether a custom sleeve length was necessary at all. To be able to finally decide this after dozens of emails, I asked for the above mentioned photo based assessment, but instead he just started away.

If this is a tiring read, well, that's what it's been feeling like for me - AND for him probably, which makes it so puzzling. I neither understand why he didn't just put my allotted material aside until we had reached more clarity and I gave my confirmation. Couldn't he have put another order in my "slot" without any problems? I wouldn't have minded if that had meant waiting another full round of six weeks or so.

I really hope that he just mixed up his own numbers and that he has been making the best possible sizing choices in spite of what seems like a puzzling lack of concern in his emails. If it turns out he did, I'll be happy to forget about this ordeal and buy several more jackets from him, because once I have one that fits right, I guess we'll no longer have to have those conversations he apparently dislikes.

I'm not sure of what to do if not, tho. If the sleeves turn out way too short and/ or if the jacket turned out too tight, I would be able to claim the sleeve surcharge back from Paypal. I paid this separately from the jacket base price, which I sent as a "gift" payment (because I trusted Stuart!) and which is thus not reclaimable. But I'd hate to do ANYthing like that.

Also worth pointing out that due to the gift payment, he had no reason to be afraid of me filing a reclaim if _I_ had made the wrong sizing choices myself based on his _numbers_. I'm only thinking about this because he left me to guess, I was pondering, and he went to work essentially guessing.


It's true he is reluctant to customize, but he will. I had the sleeves shortened on the Australian safari jacket. On me, LW sleeves tend to be long, sometimes good and sometimes not. Damn, it's not a perfect world!

We're slightly talking past each other here. As said in an earlier post, sleeve and body length variations are a standard LW offer in exchange for certain upcharges. Shape alterations (i.e. increasing or loosening torso taper) are not possible, he says, tho I've heard of at least one customer claiming to have gotten one.
 

strokes1251

Practically Family
Messages
524
Location
Los Angeles California
Hers a small update of the LW jackets in my everygrowing collection. (Ps sorry for the Long Post!)
First up the LW A2 which I wear I was pretty much every night since I got it in a trade switching off with teh roadhouse everynow and then. By far the most broken is LW I have. It looks awesome not stiff at all no more and I cant wait to see what it looks like a couple of years from now. I think the grain looks weird but pretty cool on the back where it looks like it has lines going down reminding me of sand on the beach.
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vzbz11.jpg

2agsrus.jpg

Second up is the Road House. I only get to really wear this at night as a sleeping jacket (Best way to break them in ;)) Ive only had it a couple weeks but cant wait to see it develop like the the A2.
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wraulv.jpg

Last but not least my favorite LW jacket but my least worn for obvious reasons, the B2! I can only say Ive worn this jacket 10 to 20 times and only when I go up to Hesperia lol. Love it wisH I could wear it more often but I must be crazy as I got myself the Buzz Rickson B2 to join it.
2ldk7s.jpg

2m4x8b8.jpg

Finally a group shot. Everyone should post up current pics of their LW jackets if you have the time!
1zpkw7k.jpg
 

thor

Call Me a Cab
Messages
2,009
Location
NYC, NY
Strokes1251, the grain on that LW A-2 is magnificent! When LW horsehide really breaks in, it's truly incomparable. Awesome jackets.
 

sweetfights

My Mail is Forwarded Here
Messages
3,301
Location
Canada
Hers a small update of the LW jackets in my everygrowing collection. (Ps sorry for the Long Post!)
First up the LW A2 which I wear I was pretty much every night since I got it in a trade switching off with teh roadhouse everynow and then. By far the most broken is LW I have. It looks awesome not stiff at all no more and I cant wait to see what it looks like a couple of years from now. I think the grain looks weird but pretty cool on the back where it looks like it has lines going down reminding me of sand on the beach.
2rpfpqa.jpg

20t1740.jpg

vzbz11.jpg

2agsrus.jpg

Second up is the Road House. I only get to really wear this at night as a sleeping jacket (Best way to break them in ;)) Ive only had it a couple weeks but cant wait to see it develop like the the A2.
10hkd2h.jpg

20tgpx3.jpg

wraulv.jpg

Last but not least my favorite LW jacket but my least worn for obvious reasons, the B2! I can only say Ive worn this jacket 10 to 20 times and only when I go up to Hesperia lol. Love it wisH I could wear it more often but I must be crazy as I got myself the Buzz Rickson B2 to join it.
2ldk7s.jpg

2m4x8b8.jpg

Finally a group shot. Everyone should post up current pics of their LW jackets if you have the time!
1zpkw7k.jpg
great photos- thanks for sharing Beautiful jackets from LW's
 

strokes1251

Practically Family
Messages
524
Location
Los Angeles California
Mighty fine collection!
I love that B2! Not too many make them. I think it looks fantastic.
Strokes1251, the grain on that LW A-2 is magnificent! When LW horsehide really breaks in, it's truly incomparable. Awesome jackets.
Thanks guys! Yea the B2 is a work of art I really hope Aero trys one out one of these days I would love to see their take on it. I hope the roadhouse looks as good as this A2!
great photos- thanks for sharing Beautiful jackets from LW's
No problem and thanks hopefully we see more LW Jackets
 

tmitchell59

I'll Lock Up
Messages
7,750
Location
Illinois
hopefully we see more LW Jackets

Real nice job on those photos. A year or so back there were a couple of Roadhouse on ebay, but I wasn't smart enough to get one. I was kinda tough on his heavy hide in a couple of comments, but the heavy Test is the one to reach for in nasty weather. It will protect you. I've got four of his jackets in the house. I sold one, but have pics. I'll get some posted.
 

sweetfights

My Mail is Forwarded Here
Messages
3,301
Location
Canada
Here are my LW. Test, Suburban, Roadmaster, Custom Cafe Racer, Jean Jacket. I sold the Jean Jacket. I'm dragging my feet on selling the Cafe, but is is too big.

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I have a Ryder on order. TMithchell59 How did you find the fit of the Suburban?? I am right between a 42R and a 44R and went with the 42 in the Ryder for a closer fit. My J23 from LW is a 44R but that style is old school and a close fit as per the day. Fits nice. Would like to hear your opinion on the Suburban fit compared to your other jackets from LW
 

tmitchell59

I'll Lock Up
Messages
7,750
Location
Illinois
Would like to hear your opinion on the Suburban fit compared to your other jackets from LW

The Test ordered new is a 44. The Suburban used size 44. The Suburban and test are pretty similar. I could do a 42 in either of those jackets. I'm like you kinda between 42-44 depending on the jacket. I'm 5'9" 200 pounds. I don't think you will have a problem with the 42. The Suburban sleeves are a little long for my taste, but thats me. You know LW jackets so you should be fine.
 

Roma

A-List Customer
Messages
382
Location
Moscow
I have a Suburban on order. I'm between 42L and 44L, but I always go for a size up. For layering, roomier fit. Sure, I don't get a better look with the slimmer fit, but I prefer the versatility of a jacket.
 

Roma

A-List Customer
Messages
382
Location
Moscow
Hers a small update of the LW jackets in my everygrowing collection. (Ps sorry for the Long Post!)
First up the LW A2 which I wear I was pretty much every night since I got it in a trade switching off with teh roadhouse everynow and then. By far the most broken is LW I have. It looks awesome not stiff at all no more and I cant wait to see what it looks like a couple of years from now. I think the grain looks weird but pretty cool on the back where it looks like it has lines going down reminding me of sand on the beach.
2rpfpqa.jpg

20t1740.jpg

vzbz11.jpg

2agsrus.jpg

Second up is the Road House. I only get to really wear this at night as a sleeping jacket (Best way to break them in ;)) Ive only had it a couple weeks but cant wait to see it develop like the the A2.
10hkd2h.jpg

20tgpx3.jpg

wraulv.jpg

Last but not least my favorite LW jacket but my least worn for obvious reasons, the B2! I can only say Ive worn this jacket 10 to 20 times and only when I go up to Hesperia lol. Love it wisH I could wear it more often but I must be crazy as I got myself the Buzz Rickson B2 to join it.
2ldk7s.jpg

2m4x8b8.jpg

Finally a group shot. Everyone should post up current pics of their LW jackets if you have the time!
1zpkw7k.jpg
Yep, that B2 with one more pocket outside. Cool customization.
 

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