How many new jackets do you have coming (and how many potential ones)?

[hieu]

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looks amazing, congrats man !

 

[Herrvallmo]

Got this beautiful selvedge denim jacket delivered yesterday, maybe a bit to early for a denim jacket lol, but I found it for a great deal so I took the plunge

It's from Red Tornado in China and I really like how the shawl collar plays with the "western cut", very nice!

Some pics

Cheers!"

 

[jeo]

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So it was you. Nice. Was surprised it went so quickly at that price.

Is there a size tag in the coin pocket?

A buddy of mine was upset he missed out on it. This jacket was listed as a 38 but he thought it might be a 42 or 44. If you decide to sell, let me know.

 

[AHP91]

So it was you. Nice. Was surprised it went so quickly at that price.

Is there a size tag in the coin pocket?

A buddy of mine was upset he missed out on it. This jacket was listed as a 38 but he thought it might be a 42 or 44. If you decide to sell, let me know.

The size tag is faded but it looks like a 42, and the measurements line up with vintage 42.

 

[jeo]

The size tag is faded but it looks like a 42, and the measurements line up with vintage 42.

What’s the pit to pit? I have an early one like this labeled a 42.

I have 3 size 38s and they are all consistent

 

[AHP91]

What’s the pit to pit? I have an early one like this labeled a 42.

I have 3 size 38s and they are all consistent

The tag reads 42 and it measures about 21 chest.

 

[jeo]

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Interesting. My size 42 measures 22”

It’s also pretty short at 22.5” in the back back which is only 0.5” longer than all my size 38s

 

[AHP91]

Interesting. My size 42 measures 22”

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It’s also pretty short at 22.5” in the back back which is only 0.5” longer than all my size 38s

I am far from an expert but I remember reading that the first iterations of this jacket were only offered in black horsehide. I recall looking at measurements of late 40s becks and they had different measurements to the earlier jackets. Don’t have it in front of me but I also think my jacket is longer than 22.5”

This seller has an early one, black horsehide tag size 44, same zippers as mine, with the measurements indicated below.

 

[jeo]

I am far from an expert but I remember reading that the first iterations of this jacket were only offered in black horsehide. I recall looking at measurements of late 40s becks and they had different measurements to the earlier jackets. Don’t have it in front of me but I also think my jacket is longer than 22.5”

This seller has an early one, black horsehide tag size 44, same zippers as mine, with the measurements indicated below.


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Yup, this one is like mine and yours. Early 40’s horsehide with the solid color lining and the early silk screened rayon label.

Not sure about the first iterations, but the earliest ones I’ve ever seen have been mid 30’s and I’ve seen them in black and brown goatskin.

Here’s one in brown goatskin. Has a 30’s fan talon grommet zipper. Haven’t seen any of these Becks that are earlier than this.

 

[AHP91]

Yup, this one is like mine and yours. Early 40’s horsehide with the solid color lining and the early silk screened rayon label.

Not sure about the first iterations, but the earliest ones I’ve ever seen have been mid 30’s and I’ve seen them in black and brown goatskin.

Here’s one in brown goatskin. Has a 30’s fan talon grommet zipper. Haven’t seen any of these Becks that are earlier than this.

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Yes and that jacket has the tag most commonly associated with the later becks, as opposed to the “silk/rayon” tags, unless someone added it later or something.

Also the construction of that pocket flap is a bit more primitive, older looking, and is one of the few that looks like the one on mine. Tough to say anything definitively.

Here are the two ads you previously posted, of course we know the writings in these books were sometimes flawed. Using older sourced zippers later was often prevalent, as you know.

 

[jeo]

Yes and that jacket has the tag most commonly associated with the later becks, as opposed to the “silk/rayon” tags, unless someone added it later or something.

The early goatskin jackets from the 30’s have a woven label.

Here’s a black goatskin from the 30’s that features a woven label.

Early 40’s jackets like mine and yours feature the silk screened label. That was short lived and by the mid 40’s it went back to a woven label.

Also the construction of that pocket flap is a bit more primitive, older looking, and is one of the few that looks like the one on mine. Tough to say anything definitively.

What do you mean? It should have grommets on the corners of the outside flap. And then on the pocket itself, the upper corners should be double tacked. Is yours different from that?

Here are the two ads you previously posted, of course we know the writings in these books were sometimes flawed. Using older sourced zippers later was often prevalent, as you know.





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Yeah obviously seeing the one from the 30’s in brown goatskin that I posted above kind of throws all that out the window. Even the super old Becks (before the Schott partnership) were offered in brown (cordovan or mahogany)

Ad from 1928

Note the model number “333” is a completely different style of jacket in the late 20’s. It’s all aviation.

 

[tmitchell59]

I have a Seattle Woolen like this, but too small. This one will fit. Not sure where I will wear it. I love this company, couldn't pass it up.

 

[marker2037]

Finally pulled the trigger on a Mister Freedom Campus. I’ve wanted to buy one for years, but I always felt that the color options offered were were always not ideal for what I wanted from this jacket until this bison brown.

 

[AHP91]

The early goatskin jackets from the 30’s have a woven label.

Here’s a black goatskin from the 30’s that features a woven label.

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Early 40’s jackets like mine and yours feature the silk screened label. That was short lived and by the mid 40’s it went back to a woven label.




What do you mean? It should have grommets on the corners of the outside flap. And then on the pocket itself, the upper corners should be double tacked. Is yours different from that?



Yeah obviously seeing the one from the 30’s in brown goatskin that I posted above kind of throws all that out the window. Even the super old Becks (before the Schott partnership) were offered in brown (cordovan or mahogany)

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Note the model number “333” is a completely different style of jacket in the late 20’s. It’s all aviation.

I am not looking to argue - just noting it’s peculiar that their top of the line jackets were advertised in the finest horsehide of the day, while the only jackets with the 30s era talon zippers (that I’ve seen) have been on goatskin variations. It seems logical that a new standout model jacket would be put out in horsehide, but of course anything is possible. Perhaps you have an idea of why goatskin came before horsehide.

 

[jeo]

I am not looking to argue -

Me neither. Just having a discussion.

just noting it’s peculiar that their top of the line jackets were advertised in the finest horsehide of the day, while the only jackets with the 30s era talon zippers (that I’ve seen) have been on goatskin variations.

Apologies, I didn’t see where you noted that, was just responding to what you said.

Initially you said the first iterations of this jacket were only offered in black horsehide and I just pointed out the earliest iterations were offered in both brown and black goatskin and showed an example of a brown goatskin jacket with a 30’s zipper and a woven label.

You then said that label is most commonly associated with the later becks, as opposed to the “silk/rayon” tags, suggesting it might have been added after the fact. I responded with another example of an early woven label on a 30’s goatskin jacket showing that it couldn’t have been added later.

It seems logical that a new standout model jacket would be put out in horsehide, but of course anything is possible. Perhaps you have an idea of why goatskin came before horsehide.

Thats a good question.

Your guess is as good as mine as to why we only see the early 30’s ones in goatskin.

I’d imagine cost has something to do with it.

It seems logical because horsehide was definitely the choice leather of those days, but not necessarily considered top of the line/exotic/special/luxury. That was more reserved for calfskin, capeskin, suede, goatskin. And sometimes even pony skin was also advertised as being an upgrade to horsehide. In fact, if you look at old catalogs goatskin is often the most expensive option.

If it was a standout model, maybe they wanted to produce it in goatskin first which is a “premium” leather as horses were everywhere and horsehide was cheaper than goatskin.

I’ve seen 40’s ones in sheepskin (or capeskin) as well that don’t have any leather designation on the label so they definitely weren’t afraid of using other leathers than horse.

 

[ton312]

Taking a flyer on this Golden Bear

 

[tmitchell59]

Taking a flyer on this Golden Bear
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I like

 

[TheOldFashioned]

Taking a flyer on this Golden Bear
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I got the natty version:
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...nd-how-many-potential-ones.89562/post-2591922

And apparently you liked it:
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...nd-how-many-potential-ones.89562/post-2591939

Only took you 6+ years!

 

[ton312]

And apparently you liked it:

I did and do! This one probably won’t fit me but I had to take the flyer as I believe rather than lamb, this one is goat. It’s very much like this Schott:

The numbers looked close enough to take swing!

 

[TheOldFashioned]

I did and do! This one probably won’t fit me but I had to take the flyer as I believe rather than lamb, this one is goat. It’s very much like this Schott:
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The numbers looked close enough to take swing!

Meanwhile, over in Sweden, Hans (@torfjord) be like: