How many new jackets do you have coming (and how many potential ones)?

[Mrfrown]

This fringed Kehoe on its way to me…been looking ever since @handymike picked up the one that showed up in classifieds and (horror!) chopped off the fringe.

No tagged size but sellers measurements have it at 40ish. Took the chance.

 

[ABCD]

When was the last time you ordered something from a printed mail catalogue?
And the catalogue came with actual stamps. Actual stamps. Well done Langlitz.

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I'd rather look at this piece of paper than at their appalling website lol.

 

[Canuck Panda]

This fringed Kehoe on its way to me…been looking ever since @handymike picked up the one that showed up in classifieds and (horror!) chopped off the fringe.

No tagged size but sellers measurements have it at 40ish. Took the chance.

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Rockstar

 

[Mrfrown]

Rockstar

Hope so heh

While I’m really excited about this particular jacket, I also see it as testing the waters for a potential Tex from Electric Leather Studio.

 

[Will Zach]

This fringed Kehoe on its way to me…been looking ever since @handymike picked up the one that showed up in classifieds and (horror!) chopped off the fringe.

No tagged size but sellers measurements have it at 40ish. Took the chance.

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I have been also looking for this Kehoe. The reason is that it seems that only the fringed version does not have the high kidney panel most Kehoes have, and which is not my cup of tea. If this Kehoe is too small for you, @Mrfrown, please let me know.

 

[Mrfrown]

I have been also looking for this Kehoe. The reason is that it seems that only the fringed version does not have the high kidney panel most Kehoes have, and which is not my cup of tea. If this Kehoe is too small for you, @Mrfrown, please let me know.

Sure thing @Will Zach

 

[Jin431]

I'm definitely done after receipt of my absolute grail jacket (FW Mulholland) which has been sold by fellow member @Knakorn Piulueangsawat to me today - hopefully shipping from Bangkok to Germany is swift and smooth:

finally got your jacket, congrats brother

When was the last time you ordered something from a printed mail catalogue?
And the catalogue came with actual stamps. Actual stamps. Well done Langlitz.

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that's so neat, love how every thing is listed and transparent for all to see!

 

[navetsea]

This fringed Kehoe on its way to me…been looking ever since @handymike picked up the one that showed up in classifieds and (horror!) chopped off the fringe.

No tagged size but sellers measurements have it at 40ish. Took the chance.

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may the wind blow your way
all the time.

or buy a strong fan for WJDYWT pic

 

[himelator]

And you should!

The only leather experts are the people working at the tannery. Leather jacket makers are tailors & designers and they certainly ain't tanning experts. They'd be waaay better off just saying "This is our brown leather and this is our black leather. They're all pretty cool!" 'cause frankly, at this point, that's all I wanna know.

Believe me, the only thing that makes sense is to forget 90% of "terminology" you hear getting thrown around out and just focus on color, texture and thickness (though even that part is filled with bs).
What @Jin431 says, it's just marketing techno-babble. Process of tanning is very complicated & by the time any information on how a batch of leather that some specific maker sourced has been tanned, gets transformed into a blurb on some retail platform, it went through so many levels of misunderstanding that it's best to simply ignore it.

I mean, retail websites can't even tell the difference between leather that's been split into layers & leather that a machinist flips upside-down before starting working on a jacket. Most of the internet believes Shinki is a type of leather!

What's happening is that you're hearing all of these terms from people who've never set foot into a tannery. For instance, read the descriptions on Himel's "about our leathers" page - You'll notice that all "descriptions" consist of the exact same terms that have been slightly rearranged. They can't even get the suede bit right!

But that is okay!
Because leather jacket makers themselves aren't even sure what they're buying and will for the most part just source leather that's got all the characteristics their product is known for; ie. what they're used to working with and ultimately, what the consumer expects from them.

It often happens to the tannery that they run out of a certain type of leather, which then forces makers to look for the closest match. I mean, that won't happen to Fine Creek or Real McCoy but it happens. It happened to Schott and Vanson. But what I'm getting at, not even the machinists will notice something's changed, let alone people who talk about tanning on social platforms.

People who have been in the industry for decades will happily tell you they don't care how the leather has been tanned as long as it checks all the boxes they require and I do believe that's actually a very healthy approach to all of this.

 

[himelator]

And you should!
Note you are completely incorrect in your assertions here. I do enjoy reading the lounge from time to time and as a person who spends an inordinate amount of time in tanneries working with owners and buying drumloads of leather I will say this is nonsense. I can't speak for other companies ordering from distributors but we visit our tanneries on a regular basis and meet with the staff, owners and other team members. Im curious if you have any expertise at tanning, running a tannery, working in a tannery or making leather jackets? If you ever have questions about information on our website you are welcome to drop a line and grab clarification. Regarding my team of sewer/cutters we go over every load of leather received and determine colour consistency condition etc...I mean why write this post at all ...I happen to have spent plenty of time at both McCoys and the mfg for Finecreek and I will tell you this is offbase and factually incorrect.

The only leather experts are the people working at the tannery. Leather jacket makers are tailors & designers and they certainly ain't tanning experts. They'd be waaay better off just saying "This is our brown leather and this is our black leather. They're all pretty cool!" 'cause frankly, at this point, that's all I wanna know.

Believe me, the only thing that makes sense is to forget 90% of "terminology" you hear getting thrown around out and just focus on color, texture and thickness (though even that part is filled with bs).
What @Jin431 says, it's just marketing techno-babble. Process of tanning is very complicated & by the time any information on how a batch of leather that some specific maker sourced has been tanned, gets transformed into a blurb on some retail platform, it went through so many levels of misunderstanding that it's best to simply ignore it.

I mean, retail websites can't even tell the difference between leather that's been split into layers & leather that a machinist flips upside-down before starting working on a jacket. Most of the internet believes Shinki is a type of leather!

What's happening is that you're hearing all of these terms from people who've never set foot into a tannery. For instance, read the descriptions on Himel's "about our leathers" page - You'll notice that all "descriptions" consist of the exact same terms that have been slightly rearranged. They can't even get the suede bit right!

But that is okay!
Because leather jacket makers themselves aren't even sure what they're buying and will for the most part just source leather that's got all the characteristics their product is known for; ie. what they're used to working with and ultimately, what the consumer expects from them.

It often happens to the tannery that they run out of a certain type of leather, which then forces makers to look for the closest match. I mean, that won't happen to Fine Creek or Real McCoy but it happens. It happened to Schott and Vanson. But what I'm getting at, not even the machinists will notice something's changed, let alone people who talk about tanning on social platforms.

People who have been in the industry for decades will happily tell you they don't care how the leather has been tanned as long as it checks all the boxes they require and I do believe that's actually a very healthy approach to all of this.

 

[Goel]

I might have the opportunity to get some garment weight kudu, but not sure what to make with it if I do, thinking either a trucker or another half belt.

 

[navetsea]

Oh no @Monitor you are laser locked... double laser locked, youre about to go boom .... very sorry nice to know you!

requesting for evac!!! Get to the choppa everyone!

 

[JMax]

Oh no @Monitor you are laser locked... double laser locked, youre about to go boom .... very sorry nice to know you!

requesting for evac!!! Get to the choppa everyone!

All I hear is a grunt from Halo screaming—Get It Off!!!!

 

[Mrfrown]

@himelator I appreciate you stopping by and spending the time to reply.

After the big kerfluffle earlier in the year it may feel like a dicey proposition so - thanks!

I don’t see as many Himels here as I do on Instagram, and there are some seriously nice fitting jackets y’all turn out.

When I read the leathers section in your site I was impressed by the specificity (drum dyed, light pigment, medium-hard pigment) but also confused by some repetition between descriptions (mimosa, wrinkles and mold to wearer). Looking through it, trying to easily sort the leathers into categories- tanning process, dying process, weights, etc - isn’t straightforward. And of course there will be similarities across the leathers- they are all leather after all.

In the end, it’s ad copy and I get that. It really reminds me of the Thurston descriptions - “amazing grain and character right out of the box!” Consider leather descriptions put out by Langlitz- they’re non existent as far as I can tell? So trying to get some good info out there while not confusing potential buyers is a balancing act. And it can hide a much deeper background process and knowledge.

Is the “Learn About Our Leather” page something you have spent a lot of time nailing down the way you want? Or is it more like “it’s good enough for now let’s move on”

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Word salad about ad copy aside, @navetsea You know I didn’t have Fabio-style fringe flowing in the breeze on my mind when I was buying the Kehoe but now I can’t stop thinking about it lol

 

[handymike]

This fringed Kehoe on its way to me…been looking ever since @handymike picked up the one that showed up in classifieds and (horror!) chopped off the fringe.

No tagged size but sellers measurements have it at 40ish. Took the chance.

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There is something very ASMR about the “thwapping” sounds this jacket makes when you twist your upper body. Give it a try before you shorten the fringe.

 

[Monitor]

Oh no @Monitor you are laser locked... double laser locked, youre about to go boom .... very sorry nice to know you!

requesting for evac!!! Get to the choppa everyone!

I'm still too afraid to even glance at it. Is it as bad as being condemned to Hades? Or worse? It can't be worse than Zeus' wrath.

 

[handymike]

It’s not- he just tells you that you’re wrong. No lazerbeams involved.

 

[Mrfrown]

There is something very ASMR about the “thwapping” sounds this jacket makes when you twist your upper body. Give it a try before you shorten the fringe.

Haha as long as this jacket is in my possession the fringe abides!

 

[ton312]

I'm still too afraid to even glance at it. Is it as bad as being condemned to Hades? Or worse? It can't be worse than Zeus' wrath.

I think you'll live. At least you didn't mention Zara or H&M, two top tier makers in there own right

 

[Monitor]

I think you'll live. At least you didn't mention Zara or H&M, two top tier makers in there own right

You're right. I still recall Stu's reaction when I compared the jacket they sent me to Hot Leathers. In retrospect, that was uncalled for. I never saw Hot Leathers with nearly as many issues as the jacket I got.