I'll be a bit blunt here which you hopefully don't mind as you voiced very similar concerns yourself already; This jacket doesn't fit you well at all. It's way too boxy for your body shape. Looking at that backshot, I'd say two sizes too large in the waist area. And I do agree with you that this is a design flaw. These CHP jackets should have way more taper. If you look at the originals, they are all very short, hiplength-ish and they all are very tapered, with 4-5" drops from ptp to waist measurements as they ended at the wearers narrow waist. Stus version is longer and sacrifices the taper to make sure it fits around the hips it falls down to. To me this looks like one of these "trying to adapt a vtg design to work with modern trousers raise and botchering the design in the process"-cases. I'm not saying it is not a perfectly well made jacket that may in fact work very well for someone with a more tubular bodyshape than you (for example @El Marro 's jacket looks great on him!), but I do say I personally would not expect nor want this fit from a CHP styled jacket. If I wanted a jacket with this casual relaxed fit, I'd go for a civilian style as the Suburban.
I think you may want to try to get rid of this while it still has as little wear as possible to minimize loss, you won't wear it with owning all these other jackets that fit you so much better.
No this one is shearling lined. With the laces pulled in it goes down to nearly 17” across the waist. It’s too small a jacket for me but it is cool.That’s not the one I sent you, right? I recall less taper on that one. Good amount of taper but not this. This nearly is peak Arnold taper. My police issued Cal is like this though. Carlos definitely has the build for it. Most do not.
Bro, did you just say I have a “tubular body shape”?!? If so I can assure you that is not the case although I do appreciate compliment on the fit of my CHP.I'm not saying it is not a perfectly well made jacket that may in fact work very well for someone with a more tubular bodyshape than you (for example @El Marro 's jacket looks great on him!), but I do say I personally would not expect nor want this fit from a CHP styled jacket.
Well, i contacted Stuart, he responded in three minutes:
" It can't be adjusted, we must make you a new one. send it back. will take a bit of time"
I didn't even have to lie about things and didn't have to damage my jacket to get a new one... Weird!
I am torn.
Stuart says he can make a combo, 42 shoulders and arms, but 40 chest.
Thing is i am afraid that this will give me a jacket that looks great, but isn't comfortble.
In this one when driving for example i can feel that i am using up all the spare room in the back and pits when i reach forward. If it was any smaller it would impede reach.
If i do send it back i have to pay shipping and customs again, which adds around $400 to an already super expensive jacket, with no guarantee that i will be happier with the outcome.
I think i might just break this one in fully and see if the "roundness" of the body calms down a bit with time.
It is still very very stiff...
I also can't help but think that the fit of the Chevalier is a double edge sword.
Since posting that jacket i always get people saying "This one doesnt fit as well as the Chevalier", but honestly if the chevalier was made with leather as thick as LW or CXL it would be a straight jacket!
The chevalier works because it is super thin, you can't use it as a standard of fit for every other jacket...
@El Marro do you have front/back fit pics of yours?
@El Marro do you have front/back fit pics of yours?
That is an expensive gamble...I think the leather togs is your best fit BTW. Granted this is a wildly different pattern. I did expect this to be much more trim from the pits down. It should be quite snug from the solar plexus to the waist, with room in the chest and shoulder.I am torn.
Stuart says he can make a combo, 42 shoulders and arms, but 40 chest.
Thing is i am afraid that this will give me a jacket that looks great, but isn't comfortble.
In this one when driving for example i can feel that i am using up all the spare room in the back and pits when i reach forward. If it was any smaller it would impede reach.
If i do send it back i have to pay shipping and customs again, which adds around $400 to an already super expensive jacket, with no guarantee that i will be happier with the outcome.
I think i might just break this one in fully and see if the "roundness" of the body calms down a bit with time.
It is still very very stiff...
I also can't help but think that the fit of the Chevalier is a double edge sword.
Since posting that jacket i always get people saying "This one doesnt fit as well as the Chevalier", but honestly if the chevalier was made with leather as thick as LW or CXL it would be a straight jacket!
The chevalier works because it is super thin, you can't use it as a standard of fit for every other jacket...
@El Marro do you have front/back fit pics of yours?
It seems many here get different responses from LW. I see a lot of jackets with custom touches or mods from LW and when I inquired I got an immediate no mods response. I am always very polite but just get one word replies and no impression of a want for my money or business so I gave up. I fall between LW sizing as their stock jackets fit me kind of oddly so I was after a jacket made to fit me better but just got refused. I sold both of my LW jackets to hopefully get ones that fit better but no dice. I ended up buying another Langlitz instead.
Some seem to get whatever they want from LW while others seem to suffer. Carlos, looks like you have an in with LW and I am glad they are sorting you out with zero issues and will send you a much better fitting jacket. I will be honest, that one looks a bit odd on you compared to the others you have and what I have seen you wear on the lounge, here.
It seems many here get different responses from LW. I see a lot of jackets with custom touches or mods from LW and when I inquired I got an immediate no mods response. I am always very polite but just get one word replies and no impression of a want for my money or business so I gave up. I fall between LW sizing as there stock jackets fit me kind of oddly so I was after a jacket made to fit me better but just got refused. I sold both of my LW jackets to hopefully get ones that fit better but no dice. I ended up buying another Langlitz instead.
Some seem to get whatever they want from LW while others seem to suffer. Carlos, looks like you have an in with LW and I am glad they are sorting you out with zero issues.
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Carlos,
Here’s a shot of the front zipped up that I took a couple months ago. Can’t find any of the back right now but I will see if I can get one for you this weekend.
JMax,And you eliminated the side laces, which probably slimmed the jacket down a bit. That looks most excellent on you EM!
Bro, did you just say I have a “tubular body shape”?!? If so I can assure you that is not the case although I do appreciate compliment on the fit of my CHP.
I will also concede that I do not have the same taper from chest to waist that Carlos does and I believe that may be affecting the fit of his jacket negatively.
JMax,
My jacket still has the laces they are just completely hidden by my arms there. I do have them drawn in all the way. I would also agree with you that this jacket gets a little less “rounded” with wear and use.