How do you secure a tie under a detachable flat collar?

[BigBrother]

So I've more or less mastered all the parts of traditional English dress wear with this one exception:

How in tarnation do you properly secure your tie such that it nestles in the fold of a detachable flat collar and doesn't fall between the collar and the neckband?

I believe I once read, long ago, something about securing it before you attach the collar. In writing this, I think I may have just solved it . Are you supposed to just tuck it in the fold while it's detached and tightly clamp the collar while you attach it? Still not sure...

Thanks so much for your help!

 

[Wolf99]

We are talking about a standard folded over collar, are we?

Is the collar starched so it is stiff? If so, placing the tie inside the collar before attaching it is a good idea. If it is a normal unstarched collar, treat iT as you would any other.