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How do folks react to your hat wearing?

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Funkytown, USA
Fair enough.

To me the word respect means showing someone reverence or holding them in high esteem. I just don't believe people automatically deserve reverence. I believe that is something someone earns.

Trust is another think that I think we earn. I don't automatically trust everyone I meet. Do you?

Common courtesy is somethig that I believe should be extended to everyone until such time that they demonstrate that they do not deserve courtesy.

But I always respect the right for someone else to have a different opinions to my own.

Yes, I think we are closer, rather than farther, apart in thinking. We just differ on what respect means.

Cheers.


Sent directly from my mind to yours.
 

seres

A-List Customer
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Alaska
...Trust is another think that I think we earn. I don't automatically trust everyone I meet. Do you?...

That’s a good question. In the past few decades our society has become more and more paranoid.

I was born in the middle of the last century, and I was taught to think good of everyone until they prove otherwise. So I do tend to initially trust people I MEET, but I rely on my interpretation of their mannerisms, facial expressions, etc. to avoid the less trustworthy.

And I try and pass on that feeling of trust, if for no other reason than to mitigate that growing global paranoia.

However, as we rely more and more on anonymous online buying and interaction, my trust in strangers seems to be diminishing.
 
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I was very nervous about reentering the coaching ranks when I agreed to take on a travelling rep baseball team of 14-15 year olds. It had been 25 years since my last stint as coach. I was most pleased to discover that the boys had not changed much at all. Perhaps a bit more sophisticated and a touch less willing to accept authority for the sake of authority but I clearly laid out the expectations and rules to them, received their commitment to abide by these rules and it was wonderful 2 year experience. The kids responded so well. Now admittedly it was a skewed sample as the kids had to compete to be there, wanted badly to be there but nevertheless it was refreshing to see them respond when faced with strict standards and rules. From that I concur with Moon, every generation has theirs and I need to admit I probably fell into the asshole category as a know it all teen in the 60's.
It sounds to me as if they responded favorably to you because you treated them as people and not simply as teenagers. I've noticed a lot of adults tend to "talk down" to people who are at least a generation or two younger than they are, and even young children are often aware that they're somehow being treated as an "inferior". You didn't do that, so you earned their respect by not disrespecting them in that way.
 

Short Balding Guy

I'll Lock Up
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Minnesota, USA
Todays errands included stops at the grocery store and liquor store. A wool Filson jacket and donegal cap on the outside. Slacks, gunboats, button shirt and vest under. The grocery store was my first early morning stop. Lots more folks at the grocery store this morning due to Super Bowl needs of the shoppers. The clerks at the meat counter changed their language, body language and actions when I stepped up out of the que of waiting folks. I had a pre-order and some additional items. The man and woman servicing my order were incredibly polite. After completing the transaction they offered to bring it up to the front to wait while I completed my other grocery shopping. A shopper behind me commented that was unusual. The meat counter folks replied back that the "well dressed local man, while not wearing his usual hat is a regular." I stopped at the manager's office and offered compliments on the great service at the butcher counter and she said that I am recognized and noticed by their staff as certainly being well dressed and often wearing a hat, but more so for being polite and courteous on my visits. Later in the conversation, she mentioned she likes my "green" hat. I have no idea which one, but I will have to wear it more often.

I admit I was flatered. I told the story to my wife and she gave me a hug and said that those are traits she enjoys also. My day was off to a GREAT start. I still feel that hug this evening and have returned it a couple times today.

Onward folks.

Best wishes, Eric -
 
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Albany Oregon
Todays errands included stops at the grocery store and liquor store. A wool Filson jacket and donegal cap on the outside. Slacks, gunboats, button shirt and vest under. The grocery store was my first early morning stop. Lots more folks at the grocery store this morning due to Super Bowl needs of the shoppers. The clerks at the meat counter changed their language, body language and actions when I stepped up out of the que of waiting folks. I had a pre-order and some additional items. The man and woman servicing my order were incredibly polite. After completing the transaction they offered to bring it up to the front to wait while I completed my other grocery shopping. A shopper behind me commented that was unusual. The meat counter folks replied back that the "well dressed local man, while not wearing his usual hat is a regular." I stopped at the manager's office and offered compliments on the great service at the butcher counter and she said that I am recognized and noticed by their staff as certainly being well dressed and often wearing a hat, but more so for being polite and courteous on my visits. Later in the conversation, she mentioned she likes my "green" hat. I have no idea which one, but I will have to wear it more often.

I admit I was flatered. I told the story to my wife and she gave me a hug and said that those are traits she enjoys also. My day was off to a GREAT start. I still feel that hug this evening and have returned it a couple times today.

Onward folks.

Best wishes, Eric -
Just think if you went in there with a fine Homburg on a regular basis! They would think you own the store!
 

scottyrocks

I'll Lock Up
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Isle of Langerhan, NY
Yes it seems that our values are quite aligned just that our definition of the word "respect" is a little different.

Not bad, considering how far apart we are geographically! :)

Respect has more than one part.

There is what you think of someone, and then how you interact with them. Regardless of what a child comes to think of an adult, mine was taught to always be polite when interacting with them. Rudeness will not do.
 

-Ariel-

Familiar Face
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Russia
People on the streets like to compare me with Sherlock Holmes. Does anyone know in which movie it looked like this?
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scottyrocks

I'll Lock Up
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Isle of Langerhan, NY
I have found that when it comes to people making comments about any of my clothing that no one else wears nowadays, including my hats, that most people have no idea what they are talking about.

You look more like a classic film noir detective than Sherlock Holmes, but that's my opinion.

But, that being said, the closest I know of Sherlock Holmes wearing a fedora is this,

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from Sherlock Holmes (2009) with Robert Downey Jr in the lead.

Of course, if I don't know what I am talking about, please feel free to add-on. ;)
 

Tukwila

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We went to the Pittock Mansion in Portland today. Three different people told us how much they loved our hats, one also said how it's a shame no one wears hat anymore.

On display was Mr. Pittock's Top Hat and nice leather case in his walk-in closet, but it was really hard to photograph due to it being behind glass and the reflections from the light coming in through the windows.

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Albany Oregon
We went to the Pittock Mansion in Portland today. Three different people told us how much they loved our hats, one also said how it's a shame no one wears hat anymore.

On display was Mr. Pittock's Top Hat and nice leather case in his walk-in closet, but it was really hard to photograph due to it being behind glass and the reflections from the light coming in through the windows.

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View from the front yard area
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Great day! I haven't been up to Pittock in many years. Cool images.
 

Jhoff_1979

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Northern Illinois
I haven't posted here in a while. I recently acquired a couple of Outback Trading Company Kodiak hats. The "field tan" one in the picture I wore to a furniture store the other day while I was with my family. Had on my black bomber jacket and tan slacks. The saleswoman approached me right in the door and says "I really like that hat. Indiana Jones right?"

I have read on this thread a lot of stories regarding Indiana Jones. Cannot say this has happened to me more than a couple of times. Usually its "pimp" or "Capone" or "gangster". I just laughed and thanked her. She tried anyway.
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Zoukatron

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London, UK
Just wanted to share this: I saw a middle-aged chap in a chesterfield overcoat wearing a black bowler hat in Clapham (Southwest London) yesterday. I thought it would out of place in this day and age, but given the number of people in London wearing fedoras/trilbies these days, he looked very smart. Makes me feel much happier wearing my Homburg on occasion. :)
 
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Central California
It sounds to me as if they responded favorably to you because you treated them as people and not simply as teenagers. I've noticed a lot of adults tend to "talk down" to people who are at least a generation or two younger than they are, and even young children are often aware that they're somehow being treated as an "inferior". You didn't do that, so you earned their respect by not disrespecting them in that way.

I get this at work all the time. The people who work for me are not used to being treated well by those of us old enough to be their parents. They see me as the old man of the office but I see them as my peers and it’s easy to treat them well and to become friends. Those my age don’t get how I can move with ease among our juniors. There isn’t a trick, I don’t do anything consciously to engender their friendship; I just treat them with respect and kindness. They might be several rungs further down the ladder than I am, but we are all on the same team. After some months these younger guys feel comfortable enough to tease me (including about my hats) and we all benefit from a collegial work atmosphere. There are generational differences, but the younger guys are great and they respond to be treated with respect and fairness. I don’t worry about the millennials taking over, they’ll be great.
 

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