Actually the one thing about repro brands that pisses me off. Being a union member. I don’t mind recreating every last detail but when I see the various union made labels when I know 100% damn well it was made with 0 union made pieces or sewing. It just kills me. Because people have literally fought, died, bled, been arrested for that label to mean something. But I don’t want to get sidetracked down a super long political argument with anyone or down a rabbit hole aside from the ops actual post.Strong union=good pay. Unfortunately that Union only exists in vintage jackets now.
Actually the one thing about repro brands that pisses me off. Being a union member. I don’t mind recreating every last detail but when I see the various union made labels when I know 100% damn well it was made with 0 union made pieces or sewing. It just kills me. Because people have literally fought, died, bled, been arrested for that label to mean something. But I don’t want to get sidetracked down a super long political argument with anyone or down a rabbit hole aside from the ops actual post.
Just the one part of repro making I take actual umbrage with because it has nothing to do with the production of the product and a lot of makers are actually in direct violation of the meaning of the label with what they pay and do. Obviously not all and I’m not attacking any brand specifically. Imma shut up now and move on ha
I am and some of their stuff actually looks so good if you’re into wool and knits. But not something I can bring myself to buy into!Are you familiar with the China based heritage brand 'Labour Union'?
Maybe their brandname refers to the Chinese labor union their sewers are affiliated with. Maybe not lol.
I have been tempted by a few items, but have yet to pull any triggers.Are you familiar with the China based heritage brand 'Labour Union'?
Maybe their brandname refers to the Chinese labor union their sewers are affiliated with. Maybe not lol.
Very much depends on the Union I suppose. Trades unions here in the states pay and compensate ( as well as train and educate) very well. I worked in the laborers union in Chicago after I graduated from college making far more money than my friends pursuing white collar positions and paid internships. The work was grueling, long and even in my early twenties, completely exhausting. There were days where I worked for 24 hrs straight and was ringing up massive OT. It was also a city job and the few carried the many. Which I very much despised. I was within a gnats nut of joining the Plumbers 130 but another opportunity presented itself and my life took the course I had envisioned.Union today isn’t what people think. Anyone who worked a min wage job at Safeway in their teens will understand this.
Yeah I mean it’s obvious where I stand haha. But just like anything do some unions suck? Of course. Do some locals have bad leadership of course. Just like anything in life. But the overwhelming good, even the things people take for granted today like 8 hour days, weekends, overtime, pensions, holidays and holiday pay, so on and so forth weren’t just given to us out of the kindness of corporate America’s hearts. They were fought for and demanded by organized working people. And they are finally making a big time comeback because the tables have once again swung so hard to the top that the middle and bottom said enough. Which for me and my work has been incredible.Very much depends on the Union I suppose. Trades unions here in the states pay and compensate ( as well as train and educate) very well. I worked in the laborers union in Chicago after I graduated from college making far more money than my friends pursuing white collar positions and paid internships. The work was grueling, long and even in my early twenties, completely exhausting. There were days where I worked for 24 hrs straight and was ringing up massive OT. It was also a city job and the few carried the many. Which I very much despised. I was within a gnats nut of joining the Plumbers 130 but another opportunity presented itself and my life took the course I had envisioned.
I still have a pension in the IMRF, which is a great bonus for a young moron at the time, still flailing through life, and the Union provided me that opportunity.
It was never what I wanted to do and was simply a “job” after college since my degree did not point to anything other than grad school. But the fact is I made a shit ton of money and, had I stuck with it, probably could retire in a few years from now with a fat pension. As it stands now, I’ll ride my desk until they wheel my ass to the dumpster with a slice of cake in my mouth and a candle burning off my nose hair and eyebrows.
So I’ve got that going for me. Which is nice.
I'm missing your point. I don't see much pig piling going on in this thread.Fwiw I remember several of these pig pile threads. Pretty much one from every maker. Not calling anybody out but I also remember nearly as many threads where the OP was at the very least based upon a one sided perception of events.
True. I think this one is just so easy to accept because it fits a known pattern of behavior and fits the mo. But always helps to hear the other side.Well, there are a few ad hominems but pIg pile might be the wrong term. My point was the OP is just one side of the story which in the past has turned out to be just that.
You’re right, not all unions are equal. It depends on how they are managed. But more importantly the base salary. Back then mid 90s, minimum wage was under 9 dollars, Canadian, in Vancouver. The union dues which came compounded and late was a 500 dollars bill. They lady ”forgot” to set it up as a monthly deduction.Very much depends on the Union I suppose. Trades unions here in the states pay and compensate ( as well as train and educate) very well. I worked in the laborers union in Chicago after I graduated from college making far more money than my friends pursuing white collar positions and paid internships. The work was grueling, long and even in my early twenties, completely exhausting. There were days where I worked for 24 hrs straight and was ringing up massive OT. It was also a city job and the few carried the many. Which I very much despised. I was within a gnats nut of joining the Plumbers 130 but another opportunity presented itself and my life took the course I had envisioned.
I still have a pension in the IMRF, which is a great bonus for a young moron at the time, still flailing through life, and the Union provided me that opportunity.
It was never what I wanted to do and was simply a “job” after college since my degree did not point to anything other than grad school. But the fact is I made a shit ton of money and, had I stuck with it, probably could retire in a few years from now with a fat pension. As it stands now, I’ll ride my desk until they wheel my ass to the dumpster with a slice of cake in my mouth and a candle burning off my nose hair and eyebrows.
So I’ve got that going for me. Which is nice.
Ain’t that the truth.Well, there are a few ad hominems but pIg pile might be the wrong term. My point was the OP is just one side of the story which in the past has turned out to be just that.
Pair beats Ace.I would not spend that kinda dough again on a Himel vs say, buying 2 made to measure Lewis Leathers jackets, or whatever math you want to do.
The overall ROI on leather jackets starts to diminish around the $1.2k mark.I don't think the price difference really gets you anything better for your money.
Yeah, I mean, I tried to balance any apparent one-sidedness in my review with the fact that I did speak with Himel, he was willing to discuss the jacket and build, was knowledgeable, and I did eventually receive a great jacket, accurate to the specs I provided. I am not really out to burn them down in any sense, but like I said, I just wanted to provide my experience, because this was a huge investment for me, as I imagine it would be for others.
All's well that ends well. I will admit I was pissed off at some point in the process, and in my opinion, that shouldn't really happen at Himel's price point, but I do really like the product I received if I separate it from the experience: I knew the price before I ordered it, and it's a very good jacket.
Compartmentalizing the experience from the value proposition, though, I would not spend that kinda dough again on a Himel vs say, buying 2 made to measure Lewis Leathers jackets, or whatever math you want to do. From a sheerly purchasing perspective, based on product vs. price alone, you could buy a new RMC, Goodwear, Langlitz, or whatever for ~$1K USD less than a Himel costs, and in my recent experience, I don't think the price difference really gets you anything better for your money.
You are kinda paying for bespoke in that price, and part of something bespoke is the experience of creating something custom. So then we get back to the experience factoring heavily into the perceived value.
Haha, yup. That long waitlist scared me, I might be dead or 100 pounds fatter by the time I got the jacket!When you figure out how to get a return call/email from Good Wear please let me know.