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Help identify this G-1

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Ok... these are not my pictures, looks early to me. Knits replaced, Talon pull looks 50's but could be a replacement. Pockets remind me of W&G, Monarch, etc.
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Skyhawk

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Looks like a W&G to me based on the pocket shape and collar shape. The zipper is a replacement. Could be a WWII jacket so it may not be a G1. Any stencil on the back of the collar?
 

Skyhawk

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I only have these pictures....could it be an M422a with that lining?

Yes W&G and some others used brown rayon on the WWII M422, ANJ-3A, and AN6552 jackets. They were not all red.
W&G label.jpg


Those pocket flaps are more like W&G than Monarch. W&G had very deeply scalloped pocket flaps. More so than others.
Also that pocket looks like it may have the pencil slot on the left pocket which only the M-422A had. Hard to tell for sure. If that is the case, it would have USN on the back of the collar and a bell shaped Talon puller. The zipper is a replacement. You can see where the stitch line drifts off the original stitch line a bit near the top

Check out the unique shape of the W&G pocket flap. It nearly forms a letter "M" with it's shape. It is my favorite out of the WWII flight jacket pocket flaps:
W&G Flap.JPG


Best of luck!
- Jay
 
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Marv

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That pocket photo looks exactly like my ELC 55J14 G1 (based on the L W Foster) from around 2006.
 

Eastwood

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On these photos it is difficult to see.
Because the thread on the pocket are slightly visible, and the very similar profile of the pocket flaps -
- if lining the original , then this L.W.F55J14 ..may be
- but if the lining was changed then it's more like GF422A because narrow line of pocket flaps ..may be
Realy it can be anything ;)o_O
 
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Skyhawk

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On these photos it is difficult to see.
Because the thread on the pocket are slightly visible, and the very similar profile of the pocket flaps -
- if lining the original , then this L.W.F55J14 ..may be
- but if the lining was changed then it's more like GF422A because narrow line of pocket flaps ..may be
Realy it can be anything ;)o_O

No. The LW 55J14 flaps were not as deep on the shape. See below. There was some variance also from jacket to jacket so it can be hard to say for sure. But this is what I am referring to:
Original LW 55J14 pocket: Original WG M422 Flap:
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W&G Flap2.JPG


A definite 100% ID is probably not possible, but we can certainly narrow it down. I don't agree that it could be "anything".
 

Eastwood

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The corners of the pocket flaps of the original Willis Geiger are very rounded. On the photo of the jacket corners of the pocket flaps are pointed.
Secondly, it seems to me one pocket is more than other, and can see the seam of the thread.
 

Skyhawk

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here's the G1 the pocket is from

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Yes and here's an original. As you can see the flaps are much more angular than on that repro. The pockets on that repro look much more like a W&G. More rounded and curved like an "M".
The pockets on the jacket in question in the OP are more like a W&G than this original LW Foster IMO. If we could see the back of the collar and the type of stencil and paint color, it would help to ID it as well.
Gordon & Ferguson is not likely. The pocket flaps are completely different:
G&F M422.jpg
 

pilot error

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OK......I bought it. When it arrives I'll take better pictures and we'll see what's what. Along with a Bogen & Tenenbaum AN 6552 !
 

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Ok.....Here are my somewhat better iPhone pics. Everything has been replaced save for the collar (which needs it). Decent job of reclining . Collar stencil is long gone. Shell and hide are nearly perfect. Sections look virtually new! A 75 year old leather jacket? IMO... this is a G & F M422a in a BIG 44 or a 46
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Eastwood

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OK......I bought it. When it arrives I'll take better pictures and we'll see what's what. Along with a Bogen & Tenenbaum AN 6552 ! Ok.....Here are my somewhat better iPhone pics. Everything has been replaced save for the collar (which needs it). Decent job of reclining . Collar stencil is long gone. Shell and hide are nearly perfect. Sections look virtually new! A 75 year old leather jacket? IMO... this is a G & F M422a in a BIG 44 or a 46

Well, where to brag further? I see GF422A - OK :) And where BT AN 6552? How much did pay? It is interesting!:) We try, argue, advise ;)
 
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