I've posted this before somewhere but it's worth showing in relation to goat. Mike1973's civvie A-2, this is just how good goat can get with years of wear:
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?31687-Civilian-A-2&highlight=
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?31687-Civilian-A-2&highlight=
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