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German & Austrian Hutmachers

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Albany Oregon
New black hat for my stable, which I need like a hole in the head...but! This beautiful "Lodenfrey" made by Habig in 1959. Steve says this can be called a "Camber". I like it, the soft, soft felt is homburgesque, but with no binding. Lord's Hat by definition, but Camber is a cooler name. The sweat is nice and wide with supple leather, no markings
other than a Lodenfrey stamping.
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Wore this one yesterday and it really likes a tight pinch, the brim curl has kind of a point(?) in the front. Very cool black hat. It will see some wear.
 
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Mike, It was made by P. & C. Habig Wien (see paper label, components) for Lodenfrey (retail store). I don't think it's Homburg like but was worn brim up. The point at the front of the brim was applied post production. As I mentioned "Camber" was a term used in Germany and Austria to describe similar looking hats. Here is P. & C. Habig "Camber" made for the American market.

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Steinbockhase

Practically Family
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514
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Munich, Bavaria, Germany
New black hat for my stable, which I need like a hole in the head...but! This beautiful "Lodenfrey" made by Habig in 1959. Steve says this can be called a "Camber". I like it, the soft, soft felt is homburgesque, but with no binding. Lord's Hat by definition, but Camber is a cooler name. The sweat is nice and wide with supple leather, no markings
other than a Lodenfrey stamping.
View attachment 137122 View attachment 137123 View attachment 137124 View attachment 137125 View attachment 137126 Wore this one yesterday and it really likes a tight pinch, the brim curl has kind of a point(?) in the front. Very cool black hat. It will see some wear.

Interesting; I live in Munich, Germany; ofcourse I know Lodenfrey.
 
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Mike, It was made by P. & C. Habig Wien (see paper label, components) for Lodenfrey (retail store). I don't think it's Homburg like but was worn brim up. The point at the front of the brim was applied post production. As I mentioned "Camber" was a term used in Germany and Austria to describe similar looking hats. Here is P. & C. Habig "Camber" made for the American market.

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Thanks Steve. I think the brim on this one is superb. My little back Camber has smaller dimensions. I think I'll keep the little pinch in the front, the original owner thought it looked good, I'll go with his style.
 
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Nederland
Mike, It was made by P. & C. Habig Wien (see paper label, components) for Lodenfrey (retail store). I don't think it's Homburg like but was worn brim up. The point at the front of the brim was applied post production. As I mentioned "Camber" was a term used in Germany and Austria to describe similar looking hats. Here is P. & C. Habig "Camber" made for the American market.

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Thanks Steve. I think the brim on this one is superb. My little back Camber has smaller dimensions. I think I'll keep the little pinch in the front, the original owner thought it looked good, I'll go with his style.
Good to know the style has a name. It's distinctly different from just being a brim-up fedora (which it does not want to be) or an incomplete homburg.
This is mine, which has the same shape as the Lodenfrey one.
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Stefan, The hat you posted has a different brim flange. At least based on the photos that Mike posted. I just threw out the name "Camber" because I have seen it used before for hats that could be worn brim up or down. The P. & C. Habig Vienna "Camber" I posted can be worn brim down too. I don't like to use fashion names like "Homburg" or "Camber" so a mistake on my part. :)

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Nederland
Stefan, The hat you posted has a different brim flange. At least based on the photos that Mike posted. I just threw out the name "Camber" because I have seen it used before for hats that could be worn brim up or down. The P. & C. Habig Vienna "Camber" I posted can be worn brim down too. I don't like to use fashion names like "Homburg" or "Camber" so a mistake on my part. :)

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Well at least we have a name we can use as a sort of reference for hats with brims like that, Steve. Mine seems to definitely favor being worn brim up, though. I've seen hats in different variations and with different flanges that are done in that style. Camber may have been just a fashion style name by one brand, but it's as good a name as any and it does establish that it's not your garden variety of fedora worn brim up.
 
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Mayser Porcelain Plate, drawings Marga Trauthorf - Mayser. This small porcelain plate is from a series of four. I also have a Mayser porcelain ashtray that she designed. I am not sure what time period they are from.

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Here are photos of the Mayser Porcelain Ashtray.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/3-mayser-hutfabrik/page-2#entry317
Lovely little item, Steve. Her name is Marga Trautloft and she was born Marga Mayser on 18th june 1913 as a daughter of Alfred Mayser and Helene Mayser. She was married to Johannes "Hannes" Trautloft (1912-1995), a high ranking Luftwaffe pilot and officer in WWII. Marga died 04th june 1998. She's buried in Waldfriedhof Solln near Munich along with her husband. On the gravestone she's listed as "kostumbildnerin" (costume designer).
 
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Lovely little item, Steve. Her name is Marga Trautloft and she was born Marga Mayser on 18th june 1913 as a daughter of Alfred Mayser and Helene Mayser. She was married to Johannes "Hannes" Trautloft (1912-1995), a high ranking Luftwaffe pilot and officer in WWII. Marga died 04th june 1998. She's buried in Waldfriedhof Solln near Munich along with her husband. On the gravestone she's listed as "kostumbildnerin" (costume designer).
Stefan, Thanks! Helps if I got the name correct. :)
 

Chepstow

I'll Lock Up
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Damn nice Hats Mike, Steve and Stefan ! Congrats of my side!
I was lucky too to find a nice Halali Hat on the Fleamarket on Sunday in Wuppertal! Anybody know the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal?
Some pics.
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One of the biggest fleamarket in Wuppertal only on time in the year!
Now the Hat!
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No label inside but all in all in a splendid condition!


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