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German & Austrian Hutmachers

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Dinerman said:
J.F. Reiser

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Very nice Homburg! :eusa_clap
 

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Film document of Berlin in 1929. Lots of hats :rolleyes:

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Here is another, earlier, one featuring hunting Homburgs.

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Johann Hückel´s Söhne, Jota Seal Velour

Johann Hückel´s Söhne, Jota Seal Velour, black with a hint of blue (probably 1930s). The Seal Velour finish is fantastic!

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mayserwegener said:
Johann Hückel´s Söhne, Jota Seal Velour, black with a hint of blue (probably 1930s). The Seal Velour finish is fantastic!

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Simply wonderful! Elegant!

:eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap

Sue
 

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That seal velour is an incredible hat. I have a huckel Mercure that is also very thick probable dating from the mid 1960's. They made great hats. They still make the best velour.



Steven
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Wegener Homburg

Wegener Homburg, Dark Blue. This is a special model made for A. Breiter Munich. Very nice dark blue felt that is especially pliable for a Homburg (similar to Borsalino Homburgs). I am thinking early 1950s but it could be older (very early 40s?).

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Stetson - Mayser

From a friend. Some background info regarding Stetson operations in Europe.

Mayser had owned the Stetson license for Europe before FWS* got it. The hats then were high end products like the fur felt Stetsons made in
the USA (just different shapes and a smooth finish all made by Mayser in Lindenberg). The problem: the hats were very expensive and hardly
anybody bought them. Too little sales for Stetson, so they gave it to FWS, who labeled the whole collection.

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besdor said:
I think some of the Stetson Europe hats may still be made in the USA by Bollman as well as Isesa of Spain. I remember seeing samples when I was there a few years ago.


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Yes you are correct. Here is some info about FWS from a hatter friend of mine in Germany.

"FWS stands for Friedrich W. Schneider. It's a whole sale hat trade based in Köln.They have a long 'after war tradition' for exclusive imports of international
men hat makes. For some years now they have got the Stetson name rights for Europe. So they labeled the whole collection with Stetson. Even the American 'Stetson' people import the Stetson stuff
from Colgne, because there are great men-caps made in Germany in the collection, labeled 'Stetson-An American Spirit' :) - that's how it works. There is no Stetson hat anywhere. It's just a label existing
in USA and Europe. Both are paying for the name and meanwhile cooperate with each other. For example: Our wool-felt Stetson hats are still Bollmann hats, USA. And the 'hattaras' cap by Stetson is
still made by the old cap factory 'Horst Zins', which is owned by FWS.
We sell the whole Stetson collection very well. It's fashionable and matches well the special hat-shops, just as FWS has always done! They just use the legendary name Stetson. FWS' suppliers are
the same as ever..."
 

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mayserwegener said:
Yes you are correct. Here is some info about FWS from a hatter friend of mine in Germany.

"FWS stands for Friedrich W. Schneider. It's a whole sale hat trade based in Köln.They have a long 'after war tradition' for exclusive imports of international
men hat makes. For some years now they have got the Stetson name rights for Europe. So they labeled the whole collection with Stetson. Even the American 'Stetson' people import the Stetson stuff
from Colgne, because there are great men-caps made in Germany in the collection, labeled 'Stetson-An American Spirit' :) - that's how it works. There is no Stetson hat anywhere. It's just a label existing
in USA and Europe. Both are paying for the name and meanwhile cooperate with each other. For example: Our wool-felt Stetson hats are still Bollmann hats, USA. And the 'hattaras' cap by Stetson is
still made by the old cap factory 'Horst Zins', which is owned by FWS.
We sell the whole Stetson collection very well. It's fashionable and matches well the special hat-shops, just as FWS has always done! They just use the legendary name Stetson. FWS' suppliers are
the same as ever..."

So then, to close the circle: where does Wegener come in the Stetson production in Europe?

By the way, I recently read in an Italien book on the history of Borsalino that after the war Borsalino made the Stetson line for the Italian market and Mayser got the share for some northern markets. This would match with your information MW!

Interesting that you mention Schneider. I never came across them, so far. They might mot have an own "Schneider" lable.
 
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Dreispitz said:
So then, to close the circle: where does Wegener come in the Stetson production in Europe?

By the way, I recently read in an Italien book on the history of Borsalino that after the war Borsalino made the Stetson line for the Italian market and Mayser got the share for some northern markets. This would match with your information MW!

Interesting that you mention Schneider. I never came across them, so far. They might mot have an own "Schneider" lable.

I asked about Wegener but my friend didn't know of any other German Stetson license owners other than Mayser and FWS.

Here is the FWS website which includes a history of the company.

http://www.stetson-europe.com/53-1-FWS-History.html
 
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Hüte aus Ebreichsdorf

Article in German about the hat factory in Ebreichsdorf, Austria. Fraenkel and BRÜDER BÖHM were produced at the factory which shut down in 1971. Interesting mention of a price war with TONAK being one of the causes.

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A West German-made Dobbs recently ended on ebay. Any idea who had the license to make Hat Corporation of America brands in Europe?

Brad
 
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Brad Bowers said:
A West German-made Dobbs recently ended on ebay. Any idea who had the license to make Hat Corporation of America brands in Europe?

Brad

I am not sure but I will check into it. Do you have a link to the ebay auction? I like to see pictures of it. Thanks!
 

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