As you all say, at first glance they seem fine. Too heavy for my taste, and they were huge on me so I can’t speak to fit. I’m glad that I’ve resisted the urge, but I believe they can make a decent jacket if given a pattern to copy. The leather lacked any “magic”, but they seemed better than the Wilson’s and Gap jackets they hung with. I also found a Wested jacket at another Thrift store in town…not really impressed either.