bigmanbigtruck
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Idk where you’re picking up all this condescension from.You did, and I never expressed my gratitude for that, for which I apologise. For what its worth I did in fact look at the links you sent but none of them were suitable.
Lol how is it far from a police jacket? I just don't get it, maybe there is something I'm not seeing. Side warmer pockets, chest pockets and epaulettes on a mid length jacket with some kind of action back that isn't a half belt. That's essentially what I described and that's essentially what a police jacket is.
Everyone? No, I'd say only you have tried to be helpful, and Canuck Panda. Apologies if I took some of my anger at you - I should probably have directed it at MrProper in the first place.
It's not a "bizarre mix of elements" if police jackets already have epaulettes, already have have side warmer pockets and already have chest pockets. Oh and they don't tend to be half belts but have action backs, frequently shoulder gussets.
I haven't been condescending - you have all been condescending to me. You insist on calling my idea a Frankenjacket and a bizarre mix of elements that doesn't work together, when the very thing that I described actually exists in mass numbers. Come on, that's rude, and you should know better. Chest patch pockets vs chest cargo pockets is splitting hairs - find me a man on the street who would know the difference.
This is the Fedora Lounge, not vintageleatherjackets.org. On vintageleatherjackets.org, I'd expect people to be up in arms about a jacket that has military elements but is not in fact military nor accurate to any historical military jacket. I'd expect people on the Fedora Lounge to look at form and function over historical accuracy, which is why I'm surprised chest patch pockets vs chest cargo pockets is such a big deal.
A Frankenjacket is no longer a Frankenjacket when it has been manufactured by Aero and Vanson at the very least and in use in many police departments in the USA. Come on! This isn't rocket science. The silhouette of the jacket that I described is visually very similar to a police jacket, which exists in large numbers all around the world, and consequently, what I described is not a franken jacket.
No need to lock the thread - I'll bow myself out and not post again. Some members have been helpful - thank you for that. A lot of you have been incredibly elitist and patronizing. You're not welcoming people into this hobby, you're driving them away from it. The mere fact you think we should not talk about FS leather is concerning. Not good enough for the denizens of FL? Not elitist enough? No differences of opinion allowed?
I probably won't order from FS if you're curious, so don't treat this like I've got some incredible drive to give FS my money. But I think they have their place in the market and I think people should be free to make their own decisions. Advice is appreciated, condescension like from MrProper is not.
I've seen a lot of custom jacket threads on FL and I've never once seen such elitism and condescension directed at someone's idea for a custom leather jacket. Especially when, as it turns out, what the person describes actually exists today. Again, find me a normal man who could tell the difference between what I described and a police jacket.
Everyone telling you to stay away from 5* and recommending better makers =/= condescension
You sound like you have no experience with customs or stock jackets for that matter. The guys here who do still have low odds of being happy with their purchase.
Somehow I don’t not think your odds are any better. The proverbial house (5*) always wins.