FEDORAS IN SELF DEFENCE

[Dreispitz]

Here is another aspect of the use of fedoras: self defence!

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[Mulceber]

You know the sad thing? In a combat situation like that, I think I'd actually have to THINK about whether to ruin my hat or take the knife myself.lol -M

 

[daizawaguy]

Save the hat...break the stick!

 

[Feraud]

Excellent. Thanks for posting that.

 

[mayserwegener]

Excellent. Thanks for posting that.

+1 Needs a sword cane though!

 

[suitedcboy]

That defensive weapon hat was wool. Hard to love and hard to penetrate with a sword or knife.

 

[Torpedo]

Actually, when I had self defense/arrest technique formation at the Police School, it was suggested to use the service cap, throwing it against your opponent, then tackling him taking profit of his momentarily distraction.

 

[Dreispitz]

Actually, when I had self defense/arrest technique formation at the Police School, it was suggested to use the service cap, throwing it against your opponent, then tackling him taking profit of his momentarily distraction.

Like in the pre 1459 AD mauscript of fencing master Hans Thalhofer

 

[Dr Doran]

Sword canes are available at John Helmer's in Portland, Oregon. I kid you not. I have almost bought one every time I have gone, but I don't need the trouble, or the temptation.

 

[Feraud]

Sword canes certainly look intimidating but training with a good stick can get the job done and possibly save you some legal issues.
Not to go too off subject but I do love the topic..
http://ejmas.com/jmanly/articles/2002/jmanlyart_wolf_0202.htm

Singlestick fencing was widely practised throughout England, the British Commonwealth, and the U.S.A. until the early part of the 20th century, often in tandem with the other popular recreations of the salle d'armes, including foil, duelling-sword (epee), bayonet and quarterstaff fencing. Two annual English Singlestick competitions were instituted between 1880-1900; one held in June as part of the Grand Military Tournament, and the other hosted by the German Gymnasium in December. Thus, by the turn of the twentieth century, Singlestick fencing had become established as an internationally popular combat sport, drawing from the intertwined traditions of rustic cudgel-play, military drill and the private fencing academy.

 

[Matt Deckard]

I've always found that thrusting works better with a bowler than with a fedora. The softer felts just don't hold up as well in battle.

 

[Dr Doran]

Sword canes certainly look intimidating but training with a good stick can get the job done and possibly save you some legal issues.
Not to go too off subject but I do love the topic..
http://ejmas.com/jmanly/articles/2002/jmanlyart_wolf_0202.htm

Yes. Using your fedora and your cane as a stick allows the following explanation:
"Mr. Feraud just didn't know what to do, your honor. The man charged him and Mr. Feraud's hat flew off his head, and naturally he raised his cane in self defense. It is true that the assailant had no weapon, but everything happened very fast and Mr. Feraud did only what was natural. We ask the Judge to consider this a misdemeanor at best."

Whereas using a sword cane allows ONLY the following explanation:
"Mr Feraud had a hidden deadly weapon which he used against an unarmed man, who is now dead. Murder."

 

[jwalls]

Like most of you I'm tempted by the sword cane, however I've found the cane I made using a graphite golf club shaft works very well for a quick thrust and parry.

 

[mike]

I've always found that thrusting works better with a bowler than with a fedora. The softer felts just don't hold up as well in battle.

Is it as it appears? Have you been bowled over by that style?

 

[kaosharper1]

I've always found that thrusting works better with a bowler than with a fedora. The softer felts just don't hold up as well in battle.

Oddjob would agree:

 

[theinterchange]

I was wondering when Oddjob would get a nod... if he hadn't I would have given him the recognition he deserves for being "that rascal skimming his arn hat a ol' naught naught seven." as Jethro Bodine would say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5aNn4Sfmas

Randy

 

[Lefty]

hipster fight

 

[HarpPlayerGene]

Typical mistake: Bringing a hat to a gun fight.

 

[Chasseur]

His book on self-defence with a cane is quite good and its a fun read nowadays. I wondered about that hat thing as well, it could work but I'd probably waste too much time thinking about the hat getting damaged and then flub the defence...

 

[Feraud]

I can imagine many of us yelling, "..not the hat! Not the hat!!".