Oh I don’t disagree with that. Shoes can certainly take more of a beating. And there’s a certain cost for any piece of clothing where you draw the line and just say I can’t justify that. My only point was with growth. At least you know after puberty you’re feet are the same size. You never have to worry about that changing. You buy a super awesome well built jacket and say this can last me forever. And then in a few years you’ve gained some weight and it doesn’t fit. Or some guys I know workout a lot and are jacked and then as they age they lean out and lose weight and next thing you know the jacket is too large. So to my point it was simply about the investment you know will be constant because you know your feet don’t change size. The cost of the investment and whether it’s worth it, and how quickly things wear out is a different conversation.I somewhat disagree, shoes or boots is going to meet the road, salt, dogshit, puddle and every now and then it has to be resoled and stuff, and only peeking under your pants sure good shoes gives better support or looks good but it doesn't have to the most expensive to look good if you spend too much on it there might be chance you would walk differently avoiding puddles or giving too much attention to it, anything that you don't normally do. while jacket covers more than half your body totally in view to yourself and others and if fits it simply upgrades your entire look by 300% and gaining or losing weight is your freewill is not a fate. if I have a budget either for a new jacket or a new shoes, I would go for jacket in heartbeat
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THE one favorite jacket...hard to choose...depends on season, purpose...for me.
One that is like a buddy for me is for sure my chore coat. Rock solid, easy to clean, looking better every year...and will still be intact while I’m already a bucket of mud.
My dream jacket is about to be delivered one sunny day. Customized Aero Highway Man, you’ll have to be strong once it arrived...
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One that is like a buddy for me is for sure my chore coat. Rock solid, easy to clean, looking better every year...and will still be intact while I’m already a bucket of mud.
My dream jacket is about to be delivered one sunny day. Customized Aero Highway Man, you’ll have to be strong once it arrived...
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This would be the endgame piece for me.
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Boy that's a hard one to pick. Hard enough to narrow down to a Top 10, let alone my favorite of all.
I did more research on this and went through this blog going back like 11 pages. I found a few more blurbs and different pictures of this. It says that it is veg tanned and in fact is a tea core. heres a crappy picture I took from my really old macbook Im currently using at the moment. Enjoy my million open tabs haha.This would be the endgame piece for me.
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Thought as much. Looks veg tanned, if veg tanned leather has a look but yeah... This is pretty much it for me. Standard Perfecto in this best ever leather and I'd need nothing else ever again in my life.
It’s funny. I think a lot of people start their jacket journey with a perfecto it’s well known, has some history(some of it debatable) but people know it and it’s classic. From there we go through all the makers and leathers and tannings and designs and blah blah blah so on ad infinitum. And of course I am not comparing Schotts craftsmanship, attention to detail, custom-ability, anything along those lines and terms to our beloved makers. They deserve the love and the cost associated with them. But as I started this out saying it’s funny because here I am 4-5 years into my journey and had a ton, bought and sold and traded. Yet there’s still something about a black perfecto I love. If this Horween Veg Tan Tea Core is as good as the hype suggests I think I would be with you. Give me that classic 613/618 look with a high top of the top tier leather and I’m in heaven. After all this and I’m sure 100 more jackets I’ll still love this.
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It's exactly that. I was saving for a lot time for my first Schott 618 and that was around the time I discovered this place and though it's supposed to be the best jacket ever. It was just about that time that all the Schott hate, so to call it, started, with people calling their jackets garbage due to supposedly so much better options out there. I eventually sold the 618, even though I was very happy with it and been through a whole bunch of cross zips since. Some were better, most weren't even close but ultimately, that 618 was just about everything I actually wanted from a cross zip.
I never got another one because I'd have felt like an idiot to be honest and I kept on looking and still am but I've pretty much decided now that for that classic Perfecto style, I'll stick either with Schott or vintage. Excelled, Sears, etc. all make fantastic jacket, as you know 'cause of that perfect tea-core cross zip you got but if I was ever again to go for something brand new, it'll be Schott. Preferably this Japanese veg tanned Horween variant, if I could ever find/afford it, though I'm thinking if it really would make me quit buying jackets (of that sort, at least), it'd be worth it.
Why did the Schott hate begin, though, is something I'll never understand. Sure they're not top of the line, material wise (I still claim the 618/613 pattern is as good as it gets) but they're still definitely in the competition.
I think when the felt/wool stuffed HH jackets were revealed it was a bad look for Schott and they took some deserved heat for it. I think they’ve more than bounced back though.
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That wasn't the highlight of their career, true but I don't think the felt backed HH jackets were of significantly lower quality. It was around that time when everyone online began droning on about how HH is supposed to be thick and stiff, which we now know to be bs so I'm thinking they've done it only to make it appear more substantial, even though it was the same hide they were always using which until that point was perfectly servicable.
IMO, the period they were using that really nasty, shiny leather was worse. I'm glad they pulled thru.
I was just at their site, they got some cool colorful CR's...
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Oh, right! I forgot. My Grail is actually this!
Yeah I think felt was a big part. Plus other makers were starting to do a lot more customization options. And that’s when people started really moving towards heavier leathers. Which I prefer and like a lot myself. But it’s funny because most of my collection has been vintage pieces, and most vintage is usually fairly light. Only come across a handful of real heavy older pieces. And now in modern times no amount of heavy leather is actually that functional. You need armor for that. In fact in some models heavy leather would inhibit your range of motion and make the jacket more dangerous. But I feel like I’m veering off subject. I would agree that the Horween Veg tan piece would be a grail to me. As well as if a super pristine Durable or Beck 333 ever showed up. Not many in great shape out there, and the few that turn up can cost a small fortune.
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Yeah I used to be a heavy hide nut. Now I honestly couldn’t care less. Good fit and a bit of character is where it’s at for me these days. I’ve lost all interest in ultra heavy, stiff leather. I love to look at it... but wearing it kind of sucks.
Feels cool.
For 5 minutes.
I MUST be getting old. LOL.
Nah. Nothing can beat a well fitting jacket with some character. I’ve learned this. Thankfully because of places like this which are both good and bad. You guys feed my addiction! Haha. But I also learn and see not only what I have and come across but you guys. I don’t like lightweight and super heavy like you said is cool to look at and feel tough in for a minute haha. But otherwise give me a mid weight leather on a jacket that actually fits me properly, then give it a few scrapes and fades and I’m in. I also am offloading a bunch of boots and jackets not only for space, but I want my jackets to be my jackets, that won’t happen if I keep selling and trading and buying more. Not to say I won’t still do those things but much much less so. I want my jacket to be lived in and have some guys on the internet 50 years from now one of them finding it at a garage sale and obsessing over its patina!
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What you need is to get back on the bike.
I’m such a chicken shit now. But you’re right. Something with a front brake for starters.
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That’s a good start. Stopping is important. You’ll be back into heavy hides in no time.
Gosh - just shows how different we all are. My weight is the same as what it was 36 years ago in high school. So I still fit jackets I was wearing in 1983. Boots I tend to wear out in a year. I personally don't spend more than $30 to $100 on any items except jackets. I have 7 Aussie made work boots that cost $100 each, I rotate them each day. I do not own any other type of footwear. It's not that I don't have the cash, I just don't see reason to spend it.
