Ebay Hats: Victories, Defeats, Gripes & Items of Interest

[billyspew]

Backbow=late '50s. Also, that size tag is more modern than some of the Knox Twenty's we've posted in the 'School of Hard Knox' thread, and there's at least one (with older tag than yours) that's 1950-53. Finally, that liner cover is so smooth you can barely see it - looks like the later plastic liner covers.

I have a Knox 'Custom Edge' that I was guessing is late '50s, early '60s, and yours looks older, so I bet it's just newer than mid-50s.

I'm not sure that's an accurate assumption.

I know for a fact that Adam introduced backbows somewhere prior to 53 (I've details of one with OPS tag that's a couple of years pre-Miller Miller Bros era). Adam were not normally at the forefront of hat fashion, so I can only surmise that others introduced this first. That was all it was based on though so could be wrong, it has been known!

 

[ScottF]

I'm not sure that's an accurate assumption.

I know for a fact that Adam introduced backbows somewhere prior to 53 (I've details of one with OPS tag that's a couple of years pre-Miller Miller Bros era). Adam were not normally at the forefront of hat fashion, so I can only surmise that others introduced this first. That was all it was based on though so could be wrong, it has been known!

I listed several characteristics that led me to the dating conclusion, other than the backbow.

 

[billyspew]

I listed several characteristics that led me to the dating conclusion, other than the backbow.

I'll back down on this!!

However the statement Backbow=late '50s I cannot agree with, but we can agree to disagree.

 

[Mario]

However the statement Backbow=late '50s I cannot agree with, but we can agree to disagree.

I'm with you on this one. The photos below were taken from the 1931 version of The Maltese Falcon and are clearly sporting a backbow:

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Now back to your newest ebay wins...

 

[HarpPlayerGene]

I just scored this. Thoughts?

I've been looking for a grey wider-brim hat with a cavanagh edge for some time already, and this one seems to have enough height that it should take relatively kindly to resizing up a bit. I just hope the super tight pinch hasn't damaged the felt on the front of the crown...

That looks like a fine hat. I like the obscure makers from the past. Some of them were store brands contracted through Cavanagh or Dobbs, etc. This one will be great once that tight front pinch is relaxed a bit. I'd brush it well and wet it, then shape it up. Good score!

 

[HarpPlayerGene]

Salty, that Knox is great. I have a similar one in grey without the back bow which is one of my all time favorite fedoras. I know you will be pleased.

:eusa_clap

 

[Mario]

Rrrraaaahhhh...!

I wanted to BIN this beautiful Dobbs Rainbow for just $75, but when I pushed the button I had to find out that someone sneaked in just seconds before me...! :rage:

I think I'll go to bed now and cry bitter tears into my pillow...

Ah well...

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[mayserwegener]

Mario, That is a real beauty. Fantastic (color / treament) ribbon and binding. :eusa_clap Sorry you didn't get it.

 

[Mario]

Mario, That is a real beauty. Fantastic (color / treament) ribbon and binding. :eusa_clap Sorry you didn't get it.

Yes. So sorry. *sigh*

 

[carouselvic]

I think that rainbow has more issues that went unmentioned. The crown looks to be discolored all the way around, above the ribbon.

 

[Mario]

You mean what looks to be a slightly yellowish tint above the ribbon? Yeah, I wasn't sure about this, but still...

 

[simmonsgc]

Yeah...

I saw that one, too. Always too small. Too small, I tell ya!

Be of good cheer, Mario. As I tried to tell myself when house-hunting, don't get too wound up...there's always another house on the market. Same with that guy trying to put you in that new car today. There'll always be another hat, especially in your size. Sorry you missed it, but I predict we'll soon all be drooling over your latest score (like I have many times in the past).

Cheers,

GC

 

[carouselvic]

It has been my experience that the discoloration is way worse, once you get the hat in hand. I have a Dobbs and a Knox with this same problem.

 

[ScottF]

I'll back down on this!!

However the statement Backbow=late '50s I cannot agree with, but we can agree to disagree.

Bill, Mario - I'm certain that you could always order a hat with a back-bow.

Surprised no one else has chimed in on this, but the back-bow was actually the most popular in the late 'teens - I have seen documentary footage from 1915-20 showing fedoras with back-bows.

It then had a resurgence in the late '50s. But just like plastic liner covers, black sweatbands, reeded sweatbands, brim widths, etc....it's just a characteristic to HELP you date a hat. And it turns out to be a pretty good one.

 

[billyspew]

But just like plastic liner covers, black sweatbands, reeded sweatbands, brim widths, etc....it's just a characteristic to HELP you date a hat

Understood and essentially what I was saying, probably not well.
*Steps Back*

 

[chanteuseCarey]

Esnipe my dear Mario...

I wanted to BIN this beautiful Dobbs Rainbow for just $75, but when I pushed the button I had to find out that someone sneaked in just seconds before me...! :rage:

I think I'll go to bed now and cry bitter tears into my pillow...

Ah well...

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Esnipe my dear Mario...

I'm always surprised that not everyone uses preprogrammable snipe bid services. I wouldn't even think of bidding without www.auctionsniper.com



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[carouselvic]

It was a BIN.

 

[Salty O'Rourke]

Esnipe my dear Mario...

fftopic:
Can you succesfully snipe a BIN? I'd try it on one where the entry bid is low and the BIN is high, but the two times I've hit the buy button the entry bid was only ten bucks less than the BIN. I figured it'd be easier to spend the extra few bucks than risk losing the item.

 

[buler]

I'm always surprised that not everyone uses preprogrammable snipe bid services. I wouldn't even think of bidding without www.auctionsniper.com



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So everyone is willing to give these sniping services their ebay id and password????

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