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Doc Savage the supreme adventurer

The Wolf

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I keep planning on writing about Doc , so here goes.
Street & Smith publishing did so well with their Shadow pulp they decided to put out another hero pulp. They came up with a world travelling scientist and crime stopper. They gave the story to Lester Dent but all Doc were to be written under the house name of Kenneth Robeson (except "The Derelict of Skull Shoal" somehow was printed with his own name as author).
The first story, "The Man of Bronze" was published in 1933. It set up that Doc was a scientist and surgeon (hence "Doc" Savage). His father had him raised by scientists to be a mental marvel and physically awesome. He is called the man of bronze because his skin was so tanned by tropical suns that his skin is a deep bronze with his hair being a darker bronze. The ultimate effect is that he looks like a bronze statue come to life.
His associates are masters in their own fields. He met them while they were prisoners of war in the great war. Like him they share a thirst for excitement.
"Ham" Brooks is the lawyer of the team. Loungers should appreciate because of his love of fine clothes, tailors have followed him down the street to see how clothes should be worn. He carries an inocuous looking black cane that hides blade coated with a knock-out potion on its tip.
"Monk" Mayfair looks like a red haired ape but is one of the greatest chemists. He enjoys annoying Ham as much as adventure.
"Renny" Renwick is a civil engineer. He is known for his huge fists with which he can knock the panels out of oak doors.
"Long Tom" Roberts looks like the weakling of the bunch but is a wild cat in a fight. he is an electrical expert.
"Johnny" Littlejohn is the forefather of Indiana Jones. He is the archaeologist. Unlike Indy he is extremely thin and tall. He is known for his monocle and fancy words.
That is the team until "Brand of the Werewolf" which introduces Doc's cousin, Pat. She's a stunner that can hold her own. If she isn't able to fight her way out she also carries a six-shooter for back up.

That is just the start.
 

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Don't forget to mention that Superman, the so called "man of steel" was really the man of steal, stealing from Doc Savage! :D

And this thread needs pitchurs!

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the Superman/Doc Savage link

I forgot to mention the man of bronze's first name: Clark. Yes, like Clark Kent, the man of steel. They were both called "The Man of Tomorrow". They both had a blonde cousin that would get into adventures.
The biggest swipe though: since 1933 Doc had a Fortress of Solitude in the Arctic.
Back in 1997 DC tipped their hats to pulp styles for their annuals. Superman's made the link to Doc even closer.

Next up:discussion of the Doc pulps themselves.
 

Kent Cranston

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Ah, The Man Of Bronze

Yes, I agree with you gents. Doc Savage is one of the original adventure Men. I have an original copy, first edition of the man of bronze. A fantastic read. Found it in an old steamer trunk. Let's not talk about the movie in the 70's...
 

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Mr. Cranston, you come out of the shadows and say you have a first edition of "The Man of Bronze". Is it the 1960s paperback or the 1930s pulp?
Either way, welcome to the Lounge.
I hate to tell you but I will be talking about the 1970s movie later on. When it comes up avert your eyes.;)

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The Wolf
 

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the pulp issues of Doc Savage

in March of 1933 the first issue came out. It had a slick colorful cover by Walter Baumhofer that is shown in jake_fink's post (thanx) and cheap "pulpy" paper inside. It included Doc's first adventure (sort of) three or four illustrations for the story, three back up stories (with a title illustration each) and a feature called the Treasure Trove.
The format stayed essencially the same with minor changes. The the Treasure Trove was replaced by the Doc Savage Club. The Club was a monthly essay on how to be your best with titles like "Speaking Basically", "Sincerity" and "You Can Do It".
In July of 1935 "The Doc Savage Method of Self-Improvement" which had various physical and mental exercises. That ran until June of 1937 and then replaced by the "Method of Self Defense" series.
Aside from the departments that are lacking in reprints there was also the great old ads. Camels cigarettes and Dewars scotch were common ads on the back cover. The inside had ads for things like ironized yeast: "quick new way adds 5 to 15 pounds- in a few weeks!", Charles Atlas (which seems more appropriate than Camels) and the Vacu-matic which is a mysterious discovery that saves up to 30 % on gasoline.
The Editor's Page talked about how great the story would be and the other great Street and Smith magazines you needed to buy. Sometimes it would have fanciful tales about "Kenneth Robeson's" penthouse in New York. Even though Robeson didn't exist and the actual author, Lester Dent, didn't have a penthouse as described.lol
Now since jake_fink asked for pictures here is an example of the interior art.
 

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The Wolf said:
in March of 1933 the first issue came out. It had a slick colorful cover by Walter Baumhofer that is shown in jake_fink's post (thanx) and cheap "pulpy" paper inside. It included Doc's first adventure (sort of) three or four illustrations for the story, three back up stories (with a title illustration each) and a feature called the Treasure Trove.
The format stayed essencially the same with minor changes. The the Treasure Trove was replaced by the Doc Savage Club. The Club was a monthly essay on how to be your best with titles like "Speaking Basically", "Sincerity" and "You Can Do It".
In July of 1935 "The Doc Savage Method of Self-Improvement" which had various physical and mental exercises. That ran until June of 1937 and then replaced by the "Method of Self Defense" series.
Aside from the departments that are lacking in reprints there was also the great old ads. Camels cigarettes and Dewars scotch were common ads on the back cover. The inside had ads for things like ironized yeast: "quick new way adds 5 to 15 pounds- in a few weeks!", Charles Atlas (which seems more appropriate than Camels) and the Vacu-matic which is a mysterious discovery that saves up to 30 % on gasoline.
The Editor's Page talked about how great the story would be and the other great Street and Smith magazines you needed to buy. Sometimes it would have fanciful tales about "Kenneth Robeson's" penthouse in New York. Even though Robeson didn't exist and the actual author, Lester Dent, didn't have a penthouse as described.lol
Now since jake_fink asked for pictures here is an example of the interior art.

Hey Wolf, is there a compilation of those Self-improvment essays?
 

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No, I wish there was. I doubt Street and Smith would let them be published but I wish they would.
I do own all the Improvements, though.:D

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The Wolf
 

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Well, I guess it's time to talk about the movie

In 1975 George Pal produced what was to be his last film, Doc Savage: the Man of Bronze. Among the cast was Darrell Zwerling who played Hollis Mulwray in Chinatown. He played the clothes horse, "Ham" Brooks. About ten years ago he was also in a Men's Wearhouse comercial.lol
One of Doc's other men, Long Tom, was played by the late Paul Gleason. A man who worked steadily since the film but will always be known as the ***hole from The Breakfast Club. He was also the ***hole in many other movies.
William Lucking played Renny. Most people would recognize him also. He still works pretty steadily and was in the popular "X-Files" episode "Jose Chung's from Outer Space".
Tvs Tarzan, Ron Ely, played Doc. I thought he did a fair job.

The funny thing about the movie is all Doc fans are disappointed by it but I think all Doc fans own a copy. The movie is a bit too silly. The filmmakers got some things right but decided to make it "camp".

A new Doc film was going to made a while with Arnold Schwartzenegger as Doc Savage. No, that is not a joke. It was almost made.:eek:
 

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the paperbacks

In 1964 Bantam Paperbacks started reprinting The Doc Savage stories. Most fans of Doc fisrt view of Doc was the covers of these paperbacks. James Bama brought a photorealistic, monochromatic style to the covers. He also brought an extreme widow's peak. This is something Doc fans argue about. The covers are striking and make you want to read the story but no mention of that style hair is in the books. Others can't get that image of Doc out of their head, that is what Doc looks like to them.
Obviously, the books didn't have the Doc Savage Club articles, self-improvement or original illustrations. Since the publishers didn't know if they would print all 181 stories they chose the most interesting stories first instead of chronologically.The original pulps oft times would would end a story with a teaser for the next story. Since the Bantams were printing out of order they also excised these references. Another argument the Bantam paperbacks started was the order in which one reads Docs. Some say chronologically, some say the order Bantam printed them since they were numbered others say read whichever one you get next. The last idea started by someone obviously not anal-retentive, therefore it should be ignored.;)
 

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Self-Improvement the Doc Savage Way

Actually, the Doc Savage self-improvement essays are available online, at least in part. You can find them, and a lot of other Doc Savage information at this website. (It is not mine, by the way, I just happened to stumble across it one day while looking up Doc Savage on the 'net.)

http://members.aol.com/the86floor/
 

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Welcome to the Lounge, Ben

The site you mention is the best Doc Savage site on the web.
The creator, Chris Kalb, is not only obviously a Doc fan but a talented designer and owner (and luckily for us a sharer) of wonderful Doc paraphenalia.
Thanks for pointing out the site, Ben.

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The Wolf
 

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different formats of Doc books

As mentioned Doc Savage started as a pulp magazine. They can be found fairly regularly on e-bay. I used to buy them in used bookstores and antique shops. :eek:fftopic: One time I asked a lady at an antique shop if they carried any pulps. She had no idea what I was talking about and asked for a description. After the description she asked again how it was spelled. "P. U. L. P." She walks to a case and pulls out a copy of Puck, the humor paper from the turn of the century. She then told me I was wrong about the spelling.

(back on topic) The stories were then reprinted by Bantam as paperbacks. These are pretty easy to find in bookstores and e-bay for a good price.

With the advent of the internet Doc stories became available in more formats. Stories were put out as PDFs with the original interior art. Text files were also made available for hand units.

Now, Doc Savage (and the Shadow) are being reprinted again. Sanctum Productions is reprinting two stories bound together with the original art.

I haven't seen the latest reprints but they sound nice. I got some of the PDFs before they disappeared from the 'net. I don't have all the paperbacks, but most. I'm still collecting the pulps and have been known to pay too much for bad quality originals.:eusa_doh:
 

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Heard the theme march to this movie this morning, on the local classical music station. ;)
 

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The theme was John Phillip Sousa's march The Thunderer. A lot Sousa music was arranged by Frank DeVol for the movie. Some of you might remember DeVol as the band leader on the Martin Mull/ Fred Willard show "Fernwood 2 Night".

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The Wolf
 

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