Diamond Dave - Buco J-21

[A-1]

This is a great shame. I too feel for you. I was similarly conflicted over the length of my aero j106. It sits right on my belt at the front and just overlapping at the back. I was pretty unsure at first but after 6 months or so of daily wear including riding, I'm ok with it.
Hope your next one turns out spot on.

That’d be a great fit! But it’s not covering my belt. So I think it’s too short.

 

[A-1]

First off, it's a stunning, crazy beautiful jacket.

Now; I've had Aero make me a direct J-24 copy. It was without any doubt the most beautiful jacket I've ever handled, and at the very top of the list of jackets I've EVER seen online or otherwise. I can safely say that I have handled quite a few premium jackets and nothing ever got close. That's just my personal opinion, of course, but... The shiny, jet black leather on that jacket, man, I recall how it was showing more and more insanely cool character and patina every time I'd wear it. Made a fan of Aero out of me for life.
It was so beautiful that I felt like wearing a costume piece every time I went out, I loved it to death, but... Yeah, it was too short - and it was getting shorter every day, eventually loosing an inch after just a month of non-consistent wear. I was telling myself it looks Rock & Roll, that it's just as long as the jackets we see on those old b/w photos, that it's cooler that way...




Eventually, I had to let go of it once I realized I literally had to psych myself out to leave the house in it. And that's not what I had in mind when I bought it. What Super said, I was trying to compromise a jacket that had me feeling entirely self-conscious until I ceased using it.

Looking back at it, I wish I didn't sell it as I just know for a fact I'll never see another jacket like it, but it was just the sort of jacket that I never could casually wear every day - Which was precisely what I intended it to become, when I spent all that $ on it. It was to be just a super cool jacket I'd put on and forget.

There's no moral to this, just telling you my story and my failure to deal with what I perceived as an issue, whether this issue was real or not.

Is your jacket short? It's a short jacket, alright. Does it look bad? What Nick said, it looks Rock & Roll. It looks badass. You're a rockstar in it but... That's just the thing I realized couldn't handle being, nor wanted to. Cosplay ain't my thing. And yeah, some people will be telling you it's too short. Do you care? I guess I did, more than I thought I would.

So yeah, sure, it's period correct fit, looks cool, etc. etc. but if that "if only..." thought is rattling inside your head every time you put it on, do what must be done ASAP.

Monitor, I don't know if come up really stupid here, but it didn't really get shorter right? It was just your impression.
I'm sorry for being such a stupid gorilla!

 

[Monitor]

Hey Bolero, I mean....Monitor, you did the right thing with your Aero! But brother, that must have really, really hurt.

I know, man, and it did hurt alright but what hurt most was that neither one Aero afterwards was nearly as nice as that one... That leather was one in a million.

Monitor, I don't know if come up really stupid here, but it didn't really get shorter right? It was just your impression.
I'm sorry for being such a stupid gorilla!

A-1, please don't call yourself stupid! I'm sorry for not clearing that up as it's a subject nobody has any fond memories of (though it was quite entertaining at times), one that I didn't feel elaborating upon for anyone unfamiliar with the infamous thread, and thus bring it up again - but yeah, it actually did get an inch (a bit more) shorter. So did my MC jacket, my CR and my HWM.

 

[Superfluous]

I suspect it will not be easy to find a buyer for a jacket with a 24 in chest and 26 in sleeves, but a 23.5 inch body length. You need to find someone with a large chest, short body, and long arms (I am refraining from the obvious analogies).

Exactly.

 

[Superfluous]

He agreed to remake the jacket for me.

Outstanding! Your patience will be rewarded as you enjoy your new jacket for many years.

 

[Monitor]

I see your listing in the Classified section. Good luck with the sale. That said, why are you taking a loss on the transaction? The jacket delivered by DD was NOT what you ordered. Most jacket manufacturers advertise a 1/2 inch margin of error. A 2 inch differential is far beyond any reasonable margin of error. Therefore, DD should take back your jacket, and make you a new jacket, without you incurring any costs whatsoever. If you and DD agree that you will sell the jacket (rather than returning it to him), DD should sell you the new jacket for the exact amount that you receive on the sale of the old jacket, such that you are not absorbing any of the loss -- DD should also reimburse you for the cost of shipping the old jacket to the buyer, and any additional customs for the new jacket. Bottom line: You should not have to pay one penny more than the original agreed price. DD screwed up and he must own his mistake. You should not be forced to incur additional costs because of DD's undeniably mistake.

Separately, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I suspect it will not be easy to find a buyer for a jacket with a 24 in chest and 26 in sleeves, but a 23.5 inch body length. You need to find someone with a large chest, short body, and long arms (I am refraining from the obvious analogies). I think you would be better off shipping the jacket back to DD and letting him find an appropriate buyer (again, at his cost).

Again, I am sorry for my blunt comments, but I am irked by how this is playing out. You are a good guy A-1 and a passionate jacket enthusiast -- not to mention a wonderful member of this community. You deserve better. DD should be bending over backwards to minimize your aggravation. He should be making this right, and incurring all associated costs. This is his responsibility.

 

[zhz]

If DD agreed to remake the jacket for you, than you probable should considering transfer the money you received by selling the old jacket to DD. I think this is fair for both of you.

 

[Carlos840]

Without sounding negative, a remake is in no way assurance that your next jacket will be a better fit or not have more problems.

I gave Dave all my measurements, and specific requested measurements for the jacket, i asked for 19.5" shoulders, 27" arms and 26" back.

This is what i received:

It had 19" shoulders, 25" arms, and a 27" back. it basically felt like it was a size 40 instead of a 42.
Upon calling him i was told it was all my fault and i didn't know how to use a tape measure.

The replacement jacket, the one reviewed in my thread still didn't have the asked measurements
Shoulders are still 19", arms were 28" instead of 27" and back was still 27" instead of 26"

On top of that the jacket had brown zipper tapes badly died black, staple holes, the weird cuts i mentioned, the lining at the bottom is not great, it has a size 42 tag under the label but a size 44 in the pocket...
Basically ZERO care or attention to detail!
All that to say, the replacement could well be worst than this one, so make sure you think it through.

The funny thing is that when he listed the jacket on his facebook page afterwards the measurements were indeed 19" shoulders, 25" arms and back 27"

 

[HoosierDaddy]

A-1, I just can't understand why you are feeling sorry for DD. The faulty jacket is his responsibility. I'd send it back in a heartbeat. Shouldn't cost you a dime for the return since that should also be DD's obligation. Maybe this time he'll send you what you ordered and also set it up that you don't pay anymore duty as a new jacket(you already paid that on the first one). No one is treating DD unfairly here.
HD

 

[Superfluous]

I gave Dave all my measurements, and specific requested measurements for the jacket, i asked for 19.5" shoulders, 27" arms and 26" back. This is what i received: . . . . It had 19" shoulders, 25" arms, and a 27" back. it basically felt like it was a size 40 instead of a 42.
Upon calling him i was told it was all my fault and i didn't know how to use a tape measure. . . . . . The funny thing is that when he listed the jacket on his facebook page afterwards the measurements were indeed 19" shoulders, 25" arms and back 27"

In short, he belittled you for not knowing how to properly use a tape measure, then advertised the jacket using your measurements rather than his. Not cool.

The replacement jacket, the one reviewed in my thread still didn't have the asked measurements . . . On top of that the jacket had brown zipper tapes badly died black, staple holes, the weird cuts i mentioned, the lining at the bottom is not great, it has a size 42 tag under the label but a size 44 in the pocket...Basically ZERO care or attention to detail!

Other than that, did you enjoy the play Mrs. Lincoln?

 

[Superfluous]

A-1, I just can't understand why you are feeling sorry for DD. The faulty jacket is his responsibility. I'd send it back in a heartbeat. Shouldn't cost you a dime for the return since that should also be DD's obligation. Maybe this time he'll send you what you ordered and also set it up that you don't pay anymore duty as a new jacket(you already paid that on the first one). No one is treating DD unfairly here.

^ This

 

[Monitor]

A-1's jacket already popped up for sale at DD Facebook page.

 

[A-1]

Hi everyone,
D agreed that I’d simply send the jacket back and upon its arrival, he’ll make me a new one.
For those who are wondering, DD pays for the shipping back and forth.

Just wanted to clarify this.

 

[Monitor]

Fantastic news!

 

[pawineguy]

Hi everyone,
D agreed that I’d simply send the jacket back and upon its arrival, he’ll make me a new one.
For those who are wondering, DD pays for the shipping back and forth.

Just wanted to clarify this.

Great news, hoping you get the jacket you want very shortly.

 

[Superfluous]

Hi everyone,
D agreed that I’d simply send the jacket back and upon its arrival, he’ll make me a new one.
For those who are wondering, DD pays for the shipping back and forth.

Just wanted to clarify this.

Outstanding!

 

[Damo]

Sounds about right to me!!! I think the remake will be great!

 

[41eiffel]

Hello, any thoughts on the latest J-21 by DD, the one based on the original Buco jacket he acquired ?

 

[A-1]

I love it!
And the remake will be made in this pattern! Actually it is already made. It will be sent upon the arrival of the old jacket.
Yeah! I'm a happy boy.

 

[Carlos840]

I like how the left side pocket is in on the side panel!