Thanks for the advice. I ended up getting the Gavin, since I really liked the look of them a lot. I do have a question though. I bought the Gavin in a size 10 because I'd previously owned a Lucchese boot(The Bart) in a size 9.5 and ultimately had to get the toebox stretched, although I never knew if it actually did anything. I've been sorta second guessing my choice but wondered if I ended up making the right call after all. Going by measurements I'm supposedly a 9.5, but nothing I wear besides that Bart is actually sized that way. I didn't know if that meant anything though due to all this stuff being different generally. When I called Lucchese's customer service line, they told me to go up a half size to a 10. I just wasn't sure if that was a good idea or not.