Bender
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Denim experts... Should all modern (say, 2000 to 2014) Cone Mills selvedge denim Levis jeans feature identical ID ticking? Or were there variations in the width according to what year the jean was produced, which cut, wash, what Levis collection it was released under (LVC, Made & Crafted) etc. etc...?
Back around 2015, I was lucky enough to pick up a couple of pairs of Levis 511 jeans made from Cone Mills White Oak selvedge denim from a Levis factory store.
They are great jeans, still going strong, but over the last few years I have supplemented a few more pairs... Various cuts and finishes, but I intentionally sought out the same material, ie. Cone Mills selvedge denim.
Since the Cone Mills plant closed in 2014, and the ones I purchased in 2015 were some of the last Levis stock, I’ve had to rely exclusively on NOS pairs from eBay for the others.
So today I had all my jeans out, and I noticed that the ID ticking varied greatly between pairs. The two 511s I bought from Levis are obviously authentic, and being identical, have identical ticking.
But every other pair has different ticking widths... even among the same cuts. It’s important to note, with the exception of the two original 511s bought from the factory store, every other pair is a different wash and finish (and most likely production year) from one another... even between the same cuts. For instance, I have two pairs of 501 skinny’s in different washes, two pairs of 1954 501Z in different washes... Plus there is one standard 501 cut, as well as a third pair of 511s that I just recently bought, which have been factory decorated with various repaired fray holes. None of the jeans share the same exact same ticking widths, except for the original 511s from the factory store.
In any event, just want to know if this is kosher, or if I have two nice pairs of Levis and like six fakes, ha ha.
Sorry for the long question, but wanted to be thorough. I appreciate any help I can get from you Levis denim experts!
Back around 2015, I was lucky enough to pick up a couple of pairs of Levis 511 jeans made from Cone Mills White Oak selvedge denim from a Levis factory store.
They are great jeans, still going strong, but over the last few years I have supplemented a few more pairs... Various cuts and finishes, but I intentionally sought out the same material, ie. Cone Mills selvedge denim.
Since the Cone Mills plant closed in 2014, and the ones I purchased in 2015 were some of the last Levis stock, I’ve had to rely exclusively on NOS pairs from eBay for the others.
So today I had all my jeans out, and I noticed that the ID ticking varied greatly between pairs. The two 511s I bought from Levis are obviously authentic, and being identical, have identical ticking.
But every other pair has different ticking widths... even among the same cuts. It’s important to note, with the exception of the two original 511s bought from the factory store, every other pair is a different wash and finish (and most likely production year) from one another... even between the same cuts. For instance, I have two pairs of 501 skinny’s in different washes, two pairs of 1954 501Z in different washes... Plus there is one standard 501 cut, as well as a third pair of 511s that I just recently bought, which have been factory decorated with various repaired fray holes. None of the jeans share the same exact same ticking widths, except for the original 511s from the factory store.
In any event, just want to know if this is kosher, or if I have two nice pairs of Levis and like six fakes, ha ha.
Sorry for the long question, but wanted to be thorough. I appreciate any help I can get from you Levis denim experts!
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