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Clayton veg-tanned horse hide
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They had a good run for a while, but I swear, that company doesn't know what they're doing anymore. Instead of dropping the designs that may become a case for the court, they've introduced a whole new leather just to use on those same patterns and thus further compromise themselves, if that's even possible. Outlet photos are literally the worst that I've ever seen, to the point that I honestly wouldn't know exactly what kind of a jacket is it that I've bought, until the package arrived. And isn't that a 59er? http://www.simmonsbilt.com/custom/zip-sleeve.html
Despite the re-brand, they've still got AL posters in the background. Are they so strapped for cash that nobody in the factory have the gumption to pick up a camera and take a new pic of the jacket? I very much doubt it's down to pressure of time.
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http://www.simmonsbilt.com/sale/roadster-black-steer.html <- And to come up with something like this? I think even they have got to be smart enough to realize they're better off with whatever was done during the... previous management, than to risk more of whatever is happening in the Outlet page.
Though, this Chopper with D-pocket is kinda nice... http://www.simmonsbilt.com/sale/bike-jacket.html
Doesn't says anywhere that it is a worn jacket. Which it is. And it's not just this jacket.
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YKKs? Heh, so the entire Vintage spin is off, then, I suppose...
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I used to have a saddle made of thick Clayton leather. I didn't know they did garment grade leathers. You can see the traditional veg tanning pits in operation here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HNQEM32dF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HNQEM32dF4
Canuck Panda
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Reviving this old thread to shine some spot light on the Clayton tannery, centuries old tannery in UK which I thought was gone but I guess not yet.
I have the same jacket in all three different leather, Clayton Horsehide (1.2mm), Horween Lux Horsehide (1.6 to 1.8mm), and (corrected grained) Kokkolan Elg (1.6mm). The Clayton Horse measures at only 3oz thick, but is as heavy as my 4oz Elg, and only half pound lighter than my monster Horween Lux horse. The weight is 6.5, 6.5, and 7 lbs respectively.
I first saw the Clayton Horsehide here from 58Panhead's SB jacket and I was hooked. His experience here:
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...-veg-tan-vintage-brown-hh-harris-tweed.97252/
To be fair, this is not a leather for comfort wearing. In fact it's so hard for me I couldn't do fit pics, yet. But the leather is so different this jacket ain't going anywhere. I am soaking this thing in moisturizer and try to make it softer. Best to get zippers not buttons when using this leather.
I waited a long time for SB to restock on the Clayton leather. I will leave the maker out of the leather experience because this is all about Clayton. My theory is that Clayton cuts the horsehide differently than everybody else. They do it "sides" like how Horween does their Cows, instead of the Front Quarters. This gives their horse sides a lot of the middle / butt strip part which has a woven leather structure than the normal standing up fibers found in the fronts. Hence the super heavy weight even at thinner thickness. The Clayton horsehide will literally survive a nuclear blast. Ok I am exaggerating here but you get the picture.
The Clayton is hanging on the right, the elg is on the left:
This the Horween Lux Horse about 4.5 oz. Very thick stuff. The other Lux leather I've got were thinner about 4 oz or less, but the cognac color one was odd in thickness.
In conclusion: Clayton Horsehide is very, very unique. I hope the tannery is doing well now.
I have the same jacket in all three different leather, Clayton Horsehide (1.2mm), Horween Lux Horsehide (1.6 to 1.8mm), and (corrected grained) Kokkolan Elg (1.6mm). The Clayton Horse measures at only 3oz thick, but is as heavy as my 4oz Elg, and only half pound lighter than my monster Horween Lux horse. The weight is 6.5, 6.5, and 7 lbs respectively.
I first saw the Clayton Horsehide here from 58Panhead's SB jacket and I was hooked. His experience here:
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...-veg-tan-vintage-brown-hh-harris-tweed.97252/
To be fair, this is not a leather for comfort wearing. In fact it's so hard for me I couldn't do fit pics, yet. But the leather is so different this jacket ain't going anywhere. I am soaking this thing in moisturizer and try to make it softer. Best to get zippers not buttons when using this leather.
I waited a long time for SB to restock on the Clayton leather. I will leave the maker out of the leather experience because this is all about Clayton. My theory is that Clayton cuts the horsehide differently than everybody else. They do it "sides" like how Horween does their Cows, instead of the Front Quarters. This gives their horse sides a lot of the middle / butt strip part which has a woven leather structure than the normal standing up fibers found in the fronts. Hence the super heavy weight even at thinner thickness. The Clayton horsehide will literally survive a nuclear blast. Ok I am exaggerating here but you get the picture.
The Clayton is hanging on the right, the elg is on the left:
This the Horween Lux Horse about 4.5 oz. Very thick stuff. The other Lux leather I've got were thinner about 4 oz or less, but the cognac color one was odd in thickness.
In conclusion: Clayton Horsehide is very, very unique. I hope the tannery is doing well now.
Jin431
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the Clayton looks very nice! great call on picking that hide
And survive the end of Simmons Filth, God willing.
Imuricecreamman
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Wearing my cordovan clayton today. These pics are from when I got it 4 years ago. A very underated leather.
Canuck Panda
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^^^That's very nice. Leather and Riri.
I have not seen a Clayton leather jacket listed in the Classifieds. There were Shinki's, Horweens, Italian Veggies, but no Claytons.
I have not seen a Clayton leather jacket listed in the Classifieds. There were Shinki's, Horweens, Italian Veggies, but no Claytons.
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Thanks for this educational post. I have a Clayton Leather Cafe Racer from Simmonsbilt. The leather is thick and tough. Tough like Lost World's leather but far more pliable and soft. I conditioned mine with Huberds Shoe Grease generously,
and the leather turned out spectacular. The jacket is heavy. My best explanation: the leather is Lost World's tough but very much like CXL, especially after conditioning with Huberds.
sweetfights
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My understanding is that the company went out of business.
Canuck Panda
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The Clayton Tannery (used to) make some serious good leather. But you're right @sweetfights They went out of business some time ago. I was surprised SB was still able to source the old stock.
For now the only robust HH available are either Horween's CXL FQHH or LW's heavyweight HH. All good stuff. Just from different locations.
The (3-3.5oz) horsehide used in the Schott 613SH is another one. Really beefy stuff with excellent weather and abrasion resistance, yet quite quick break in.
