China Patterns

[Land-O-LakesGal]

Thanks - I'm not too keen on 50's style, especially the more atomicy stuff. I think I might start looking at some deco items though. I've just bought a friend a book on teacup patterns so perhaps I can take a sneaky peek before I give t to her....

On that note Smutterella this is my good set of dishes I bought about 10 years ago at an estate sale and slowely added on the collection. lol Just teasing I know this stuff is all personal taste I am sure someone will post a deco set soon and i will have dish envy.

 

[Foofoogal]

http://www.tias.com/7617/PictPage/3923558886.html

Here you go Smuterella. Art Deco enough for you?

I have and love Art Deco stuff and am always drawn to the English China.

Your Vernonware is very nice also LOLG. :eusa_clap

 

[Smuterella]

^ that is incredible - too incredible to use though I think.

wow.

 

[scotrace]

OK, I'm going to open a can of worms here but that isn't Art Deco. That's Arts & Crafts.

Art Deco:

Think soaring angles and drama.

Arts & Crafts (often cross-polinates with Art Nouveau:
Think nature, vines, stylized flowers.

China patterns:

Is Art Deco.
The pattern linked above is Arts & Crafts.

The terms are very commonly misused.

 

[Smuterella]

^ thank you

I have decided this is my pattern. Just won an entire tea set - 6 places, large plate, teapot, jug and sugar bowl

So, a bit of a head start, used my bonus from work, but I'm going to start collecting the dinner service too.

 

[Foofoogal]

scotrace. Do you mean my link above?
If you do I understand what you mean about cross over.


http://www.tias.com/7617/PictPage/3923643497.html
This is Art Deco.

 

[BinkieBaumont]

"I Have never understood why they do not re-issue the Shelley "Vogue" Tea ware???, so as to be able to use it every day rather than sitting in a display cabinet"

 

[TackCollector]

Main set of fine china, Castleton Jubilee, that I paid through the nose for. It's hand painted.

I have a few pieces of Mason's Vista in pink

Small set of Castleton Manor, rescued from an estate sale. It's decal with a bit of hand painting.

And my grandmother's John Brothers Coaching Scenes, blue, which were her everyday dishes.

(pics are borrowed)

 

[shortbow]

Scot, I both agree and demure. Personally, I make a distinction from the very early Deco and the later stuff when the streamlining thing etc came in. The Nouveau/A&C cross pollination is often obvious, but in some of the early AD, there is a definite influence of Nouveau, to my eye at least. On your particular example though, I would agree and call that Arts and Crafts. But at the same time discern a bit of the evolutionary seeds that became Deco. There is often some gray area in it all, to my eye anyway.

 

[dhermann1]

Yes, Foofoo's pattern is really gorgeous, but I'd call it more Art Nouveau or Arts and Crafts than Deco. Maybe more between 1900 and 1918. Like all eras, they didn't know that they were "Art Deco" instead of this or that other movement. All labels are put on after the fact, and every new design is an amalgam of every visual idea that artist ever saw. That's what makes labelling so tricky. Foofoo's is definitely a very "modern" design, even after all these years. There's also a definite Japanes influence, which (I think) also places it a little earlier than Deco. But it still belongs in the conversation.

 

[dhermann1]

You know, after looking at Foofoo's pattern very closely, I'd say it's definitely post 1920. The motif of the 18th century people sitting around in silhouette, and especially that black and red color combination is very eary 20's. I'd have to take back my previous comment and put them squarely in the Deco slot. UNLESS!!!! UNLESS!!! you want to call Deco only those geometric industrial patterns that the Art Deco expo in 1923 focused on.
It's an argument that could go on forever! That's the problem with labels!

 

[scotrace]

scotrace. Do you mean my link above?
If you do I understand what you mean about cross over.


http://www.tias.com/7617/PictPage/3923643497.html


This is Art Deco.

Neat! Art deco shape, A&C decoration!

 

[Foofoogal]

I say tomato tomatoe or however that went.

On my description it states a person well versed in English China helped me on this.
I know for a fact this person knows the year.

Scotrace, take a look at the Mission chair in the other thread on thrift and yard sale finds and see if you think Arts and Crafts on this please.

 

[BinkieBaumont]

"I used to have this as a 21 piece Tea set but over the last 30 years it has dwindled down to just six side plates and the cake plate, so it only comes out at very special Cocktail Parties"

"It looks like a bowl, as I used my Flat scanner for the picture"

 

[Foofoogal]

Who is the maker Binkie? Does it have markings?

 

[BinkieBaumont]

Foof, its BELL CHINA made in England I have seen the same shape on ebay but never see this design, needless to say if I see any I will buy it, to re-unite with the plates

 

[dhermann1]

I just got these on the 'Bay. I don't need them, I have basically no use for them, I don't know what the heck I'll do with them but I LOVE them. Do I have a problem?
This set is labeled KEQAUOS Aglo-Rose. (I think the first letters are really in Greek). Anyway, they just scream late 30's to me.

There were 6 dinner plates and 5 butter plates. Something about those squarish 30's plates makes me crazy. I just think they're so DECO.

There was also a very nice platter.

There are a lot of this pattern about, but not many actual plates. Lots of bowls and pitchers, etc. It's another Universal Cambridge design. This just personifies a 30's kitchen to me.
I got 6 of these desert plates. Right between the size of the above dinner and butter plates.

And a nice bowl. The plastic fruit were a freeby the seller tossed in!

 

[Foofoogal]

Gorgeous. I adore anything remotely cottage looking.

http://tinyurl.com/2bohvgw

I am linked to this shop and your china made me think of all the potential. Cherries galore.

Sorry to tempt you so....

 

[Foofoogal]

Binkie. I have looked also and cannot find your pattern. Amazing. I will let you know if I do indeed find anymore for you.

 

[BinkieBaumont]

Thanks Foofoo, I think its the gold that makes it unique, it may have been something that was produced for the Australian market, as we were part of the British Empire, in the 1930's, i do know that Clarice Cliff, produced a special design for the Restaurant at a Sydney Department store