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carole wolthausen

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The Stetson company in 1935, in order to navigate around the high tariffs, bought in to this company in Canada. It was the first time that Stetson had opened an operation in another country. This plant in Canada, kept making their own line of hats, and added the Stetson line. That Stetson book comes in handy.:D Fedora
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Redfokker said:
This is a wonderful old ad that our new friend Carole will cherish. Did I say welcome Carole?
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Redfokker said:
This is a wonderful old ad that our new friend Carole will cherish. Did I say welcome Carole?
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Thanks for your welcome. Yes I did see this ad and in fact bought it. It was shipped today. There is something else I found while searching info on the Wolthausen. It is a glass top hat advertising the 'factory'. Unfortunately it was sold in February 2016 - but you never know another one might show up somewhere. Thanks for everyones interest
 

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I have an old Stetson Royal Deluxe I just reblocked. It has the same liner as all of my 40s Stetsons (no plastic over the liner), and a decal under the sweatband which is identical to the Philadelphia ones, in terms of size, color and font, which states the size and:

JOHN B. STETSON Company (Canada) Limited
BROCKVILLE, ONTARIO CANADA

The felt quality is excellent, just about as good as my Royal Stetson VitaFelt, which is my favorite felt of the vintage Stetsons. After examining Matt Deckard's Optimo, I feel like the VitaFelt is pretty much the same deal.

I haven't worn the Canadian Stetson because I reblocked and cleaned it, and I'm supposed to send it to Art to put the innards back in...but I keep thinking that I'll wait until I have a couple of hats to send him. (They're still coming to you, Art! Just might be a while.) But it's a nice hat. I couldn't tell any real difference in quality between this hat and other vintage Stetsons of the same felt line.

Aha! Just dug up some info. Stetson acquired the Wolthausen Hat Corporation of Brockville, Ontario, in 1935. Wolthausen was one of the largest manufacturers of men's fur hats in Canada, and once acquired by Stetson, they also made Stetsons. (I have a photo of it if it helps.)

Guess that's where my hat came from. I don't know if it's quite that old...but it did have a weird crown shape and bash I've only seen in really old advertising of the mid-30s.

Not that we were talking about it, but I was also sad to learn that only 3 buildings from the original, massive Stetson factory in Philadelphia remained after Stetson donated the land and the buildings to the city. In 1980, arsonists burned down those last three buildings, which were slated for renovation to commemorate the industrial age in Philadelphia. While there's nothing there to see, there might still be something left of the Wolthausen plant which made the Stetsons in Canada.

I'm pretty good at "urban archaeology," as you called it, but it's tougher when I'm so far away. I'll see what I can dig up on Wolthausen.
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Johan Wolthausen opened his first factory in Connecticut in the late 1800's. It was called the Hoydt Wolthausen Factory. I was use surprised to find the an old safe from the factory was for sale on e-bay last year. Still looking for a Brock hat. One of these days it will turn up.
 

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carole wolthausen said:
Johan Wolthausen opened his first factory in Connecticut in the late 1800's. It was called the Hoydt Wolthausen Factory. I was use surprised to find the an old safe from the factory was for sale on e-bay last year. Still looking for a Brock hat. One of these days it will turn up.
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Just having an image of that Wolthausen safe is special. It must have been a pick up only auction, with a truck and forklift!
 
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New to the lounge but happen to have a decent quantity of what seem to be Vintage Brock Fedora's as well as several other names. Most if not all of them have never been worn. They have some original price tags on them. I am a novice when it comes to determining whether they are fur felt or just felt but any help in this regard would be useful. A good number of them have the Wolthausen Corp tag on them and a stamped serial number. Any guidance or advice would be welcomed. We also have some hat boxes from BROCK as well. I will try to upload a pic. Does anyone know if there is a market for these?
 
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View attachment 81625 New to the lounge but happen to have a decent quantity of what seem to be Vintage Brock Fedora's as well as several other names. Most if not all of them have never been worn. They have some original price tags on them. I am a novice when it comes to determining whether they are fur felt or just felt but any help in this regard would be useful. A good number of them have the Wolthausen Corp tag on them and a stamped serial number. Any guidance or advice would be welcomed. We also have some hat boxes from BROCK as well. I will try to upload a pic. Does anyone know if there is a market for these?
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You have found the market for those hats right here.
 
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View attachment 81625 New to the lounge but happen to have a decent quantity of what seem to be Vintage Brock Fedora's as well as several other names. Most if not all of them have never been worn. They have some original price tags on them. I am a novice when it comes to determining whether they are fur felt or just felt but any help in this regard would be useful. A good number of them have the Wolthausen Corp tag on them and a stamped serial number. Any guidance or advice would be welcomed. We also have some hat boxes from BROCK as well. I will try to upload a pic. Does anyone know if there is a market for these?
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Welcome to the lounge and I must say: that is some way to make an entrance. Those look stunning and I do mean all of them. I'm sure we all would all love to see these hats one by one in detail.
 

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Is that a good holy shit or a waste of time holy shit. if good I will sort and count tomorrow. Here's a pic of another Brock. Size 7. The material is different than the others. More fuzzy. I'm thinking this could be fur felt ???
 

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