Wyldkarma
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Just found this forum . Loved old Banana republic stores. Have several vintage artifacts from them. Here's 2 of my faves.
I guess from Vienna you could get to Africa for $800. Sadly for those of us on the Left Coast of N. America it's LOT more. And that jacket is nonsense, anyway.
1961MJS, thank you for introducing me to Peter Capstick. I plan on ordering a copy of “Death in the Long Grass”. Reading about the man, I am struck by the way he completely walked away from the zeitgeist of the 1970s. I’m delighted to find that there are still holes in my education regarding the existence of such colorful characters. Do you have a favorite book of his to recommend? And why is that?
https://www.shakariconnection.com/peter-hathaway-capstick-books.html
Regarding suede, I’m afraid —for me— it conjures up images of a decade (the 70s) when I was still an awkward pimply faced adolescent struggling to figure out the world. Putting on a suede jacket would take me right back there, I’m afraid. No thanks.
Hi, all of Peter Capstick's books are good. I would suggest Skipping the book on going on a Safari, it's very dated. Not that it isn't well written, but you can't hunt any of the Big 5 now except for Buffalo. Elephants are about gone, white or black Rhino's ARE gone (if memory serves), Lions are a maybe and Leopards are out. Capstick's books mention that of course leopards appear to be extinct, they hunt at night and all.
I also highly recommend Robert Ruark's "the old man and the boy" and "the old man and the boy returns", you can get both together from amazon. Boyhood in Maryland area.
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Today’s news re: Trophy hunting in Africa:
https://www.latimes.com/california/...-wants-to-ban-trophy-hunting-la-man-is-target
I guess I can see both sides of the argument. If “managed” hunting is legal and contributes to long-term sustainability, why not? Unless you are a strict vegetarian, hunting is a fair option under controlled circumstances. On the other hand, if hunting is contributing to accelerated extinction, that’s a problem.
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Also, as far as I know the hunting permits are issued based on a lottery system. About the cheapest of the above to hunt is the Lion at around $40K as a base price. The Rhino is typically well over $250k. Another issue is the 'trophy' itself. It can be incredibly difficult to export the trophy out of Africa and then it can be incredibly difficult to import it into your home country, such as the USA. The export/import cost can be exorbitant.
Consider this, Kenya banned hunting completely in 1977. There game populations have plummeted. Tsavo (of The Ghost and the Darkness fame) was estimated ot have 20,000 lions in 1970. Now the population is less than 2,000. They may not have any lions left in 20 years.
I'm really not sure what you are trying to say. Making game animals worth something has definitely worked. Here in the US we are awash in game animals in many places because the are valued by hunters. Hunters will pay to hunt them and that money goes to help manage them. Deer, turkey, pheasant, sheep, Elk, Ducks etc have all benefited by management. They have value to hunters so we will pay fees, taxes etc to manage them. Some countries in Africa have adopted this policy and have strong populations other have not and the results show.Killing a species to conserve the species is not a sustainable conservation model. Local farmers kill these animals regardless of their worth. They actively hunt destructive elephants, and kill lions with poisoned meat. Obviously making these animals worth something is not working.
Eventually, these animals will be "conserved" into extinction.
Deer, turkey, and pheasant are not critically endangered due to human encroachment and being considered nuisance animals. I'd say the situation in Africa is more akin to wolf numbers in the first parts of 20th century, prior to conservation efforts. Their numbers are only what they are today because of breeding programs, and because stiff penalties were introduced to farmers and ranchers caught poaching and trapping them. At no point did anybody consider that shooting wolves would increase their numbers.I'm really not sure what you are trying to say. Making game animals worth something has definitely worked. Here in the US we are awash in game animals in many places because the are valued by hunters. Hunters will pay to hunt them and that money goes to help manage them. Deer, turkey, pheasant, sheep, Elk, Ducks etc have all benefited by management. They have value to hunters so we will pay fees, taxes etc to manage them. Some countries in Africa have adopted this policy and have strong populations other have not and the results show.