Attack of the spread collars

[Matt Deckard]

Everywhere I look from London to LA you see pics of spread collars with double cuff shirts. I was lucky when i found some point collar double cuffs at Brooks Brothers a year ago though they discontinued the style. From looking at old movies I see that point collars and double cuffs were more standard.

What happened?

Outside of having them made who makes a good point collar double cuff off the rack?

 

[Jay]

North by Northwest. Classic. I'd also like to know, Matt. That way I can show off my Ace of Spades cufflinks.

 

[Orgetorix]

What do you have against spread collars? Not right for your face shape?

 

[Nick Charles]

Matt did you see that BrooksBrothers is offering a you create shirt. here is the link http://www.brooksbrothers.com/selectshirts/selectshirts.tem

you pick the color, fabric, collar, cuff and fit.

 

[Feraud]

With a spread collar you need to tie a knot that is fat enough to fill the space between the tips. Otherwise you get this look..

I have noticed vintage ties are thinner and work better with a small knot.
The vintage tie style works better with a long pointed collar.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/feraud/Fedora Lounge/Josh2.jpg

 

[Matt Deckard]

I don't want the Popeye Doyle. May work for some though not my tea cup filled.

I know about the Brooks pick and choose styling through their catalog, though that is still made to order and not of the rack.

 

[GateXC]

Except that Hackman's collar isn't a spread collar....it's a regular pointed one and he has the top button of his shirt unbuttoned.

The spread collar has gotten more popular with the strong influence of european (esp. British) fashion in America over the last several years. I find the spread collar allows much more versatility in the type of knot that I can wear, but as Feraud pointed out - this is moot if the tie itself is a thin material - and then no matter if it's a double-full-windsor, the knot is still going to get lost.

As a personal matter of taste though, I wear a spread collar almost exclusively.

 

[Matt Deckard]

Your style caters to the look. It's a different suit style all together than that which Grant wears.

 

[Nick Charles]

well there is always this , but I dont care for the blend.

from JC penny.

 

[Matt Deckard]

And like Popeye's collar... the tips are too short for my taste.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Cary Grant often wore moderate spread collars. He also favored buttondown collars.


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[Baron Kurtz]

I have no problem with the spread collar.

I know that Paul Stuart makes non-spread collar shirts off the rack. But they have quality issues.

bk

 

[Mr Maltby]

double cuff-french cuff. please explain the difference.

 

[Orgetorix]

double cuff-french cuff. please explain the difference.

There isn't one. Two different terms for the same thing.

 

[jml90]

I think the spread collar is a better look. Point collars just seem run of the mill.

 

[Mr Maltby]

being a fan of the 60s style, and narrow ties, my vote goes to the point collar. much more slick.

 

[Mr. Rover]

Actually, I have found that spread collars have become "run of the mill" these days, along with the ubiquitous button-down collar. I like the look of contemporary 4-in-hands with the spread collar, especially if it is stiff enough to stand up. It sort of simulates how an old tie looks with a collar pin. I honestly can't stand the giant Windsor knots that are popular these days. They're so 70's.

 

[Benny Holiday]

Very appropriate title for the thread, Matt

About five years ago, the spread collar invaded Sydney, and immediately took over, to the point where this past half-decade there has been no variety and no choice when it comes to French cuff chirts. You can have an extreme spread collar with your French cuffs, or you can have an even more extreme spread collar. That is all.

All I'm asking for is a bit of variety. Out of all the shirt makers - Ganton, Pelaco, Van Heusen, GloWeave, etc. - only one offers a straight collar with French cuffs, and only then in white. (I can't recall which brand it is, though!).

Indy Magnoli has developed a long-collared shirt like Jack Nicholson sports in Chinatown. I think my next dress shirt will be from his shop. Knowing Indy, he'll be happy to accommodate diffrent collar styles and fabrics, and i know the shirt will fit right, too.

 

[Tomasso]

being a fan of the 60s style, and narrow ties, my vote goes to the point collar.

The PoW seems to pull off the narrow tie, spread collar combo. No?

 

[jml90]

Actually, I have found that spread collars have become "run of the mill" these days, along with the ubiquitous button-down collar. I like the look of contemporary 4-in-hands with the spread collar, especially if it is stiff enough to stand up with the use of a collar bar. It sort of simulates how an old tie looks with a collar pin. I honestly can't stand the giant Windsor knots that are popular these days. They're so 70's.

That's funny I can't find any.