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https://www.sye.com/millinery-supplies/zoria-hats-supplies-puggaree-hat-bands.asp
I’ve bought a couple dozen from them and I’ve been impressed.
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https://www.sye.com/millinery-supplies/zoria-hats-supplies-puggaree-hat-bands.asp
I’ve bought a couple dozen from them and I’ve been impressed.
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I make my own out of vintage silk ties....except I don't like the tapered ends of the pugaree so I treat it like a standard ribbon, the same width all the way around and then join it with a 'keeper' to hide the seam (no bow). I generally do 1 1/4" or 1 1/2" with two pleats.
Village Hat Shop has both a vast variety of solid colors, and a few patterns: https://www.villagehatshop.com/product/all/451139-130123/paisley-3-pleat-puggaree-hat-band.html
Dotneck
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Perfect Brent. Thanks.
Rmccamey
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I've bought a couple from Mike at Northwest Hats.
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I have one made from a silk tie. They seem to work very well.
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I wondered about ties. I have some that I don’t use anymore. Plus I usually liked the ties I bought.
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Sean66
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Hi everyone,
This may be a dumb question, but what’s the difference between a mid and long oval in terms of fit?
I have an OR 7 1/4 regular oval that fits a bit snug and was wondering if a mid oval might fit better.
Thanks,
Sean
This may be a dumb question, but what’s the difference between a mid and long oval in terms of fit?
I have an OR 7 1/4 regular oval that fits a bit snug and was wondering if a mid oval might fit better.
Thanks,
Sean
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I have never heard of a mid oval. I have either long oval and regular oval blocks. Where are the 'snug' points?....front & back or side to side?
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They are out there. I can’t speak to how different the fit is compared to standard or non-specified ovals.
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I think Robert @belfastboy is just dreading the thought of needing a whole new set of mid-oval blocks and flanges. 
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Not gonna happen. I will invent a head shaper that turns a regular oval head into a long oval before I buy another set of blocks!!!I think Robert @belfastboy is just dreading the thought of needing a whole new set of mid-oval blocks and flanges.
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It is interesting as I have never come across a contemporary block maker that offers a mid oval footprint. Nor a vintage block or flange that is marked mid oval. A unicorn or yeti?I think Robert @belfastboy is just dreading the thought of needing a whole new set of mid-oval blocks and flanges.
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Could someone please tell me what time frame this Knox hat is? I'm thinking late 1930s to early 1940s.
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1950s and probably local to me originally.
From Brad Bowers:
1950s Factory Label
The decade of the 1950s saw the standardized factory labels change again as new printing equipment was put into use. These labels were used across all of Hat Corporation of America’s lines until sometime after 1960, when the label changed slightly. Exactly when these were first used is unknown, but they used on OPS marked hats (see below for OPS information), and thus circa-1950 is a reasonable estimate.
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My guess is 50s, based on the HCA label shown.
https://www.thehattedprofessor.com/datehca.html
Is there a union label? That could be helpful.
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Wow! Very cool. Thanks Bob I really appreciate that. The pic of the store is fantastic! I was wondering the time frame on this as I bought it off of a lady whose grandfather was from Oklahoma. She thought it was earlier. That's some good info.
gilligan
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No union label to be found.
