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Hi Guys, what is the difference between homburg 3x and homburg Royal Stetson?

I found the following homburg, I appreciate your comments, thanks


The 3X should be a higher quality hat than the Royal. There was a time with the Royal was a $10 hat, the Royal DeLuxe was $12.50, and the 3X was $15. I can’t say if this ratio continued to when your hat was made, but I suspect it did.
 
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I get that you and I would see the red flags of a hat being sized small, medium, large, etc., or for a beaver hat selling so cheap, but if you are new to hats I don’t know if those things ring alarm bells.

I think I’d contact the US Dept. of Commerce and complain that the hat or the advertising was in contravention of the Wool Products Labeling Act of 1939. I’m sure I’d be granted an injunction to order Hat-Co to cease all production. Or I’d drive down to Pro Equine and picket the corporate offices. :)
Brent going for the jugular!! He’s been waiting to break out that Wool Products Labeling Act of 1939. Pretty soon they will be breaking rocks next to all them folks that ripped off the mattress tags!
 
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Brent going for the jugular!! He’s been waiting to break out that Wool Products Labeling Act of 1939. Pretty soon they will be breaking rocks next to all them folks that ripped off the mattress tags!


I see them on a chain gang building roads Cool Hand Luke style. Don’t get me started on the scofflaws who remove mattress tags: anarchists!
 
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Here’s a seller doing it right:

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I’m not positive on the size, but I have some confidence I’ll be able to make it work based on the measurements. This hat should arrive early next week.
 
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Hi Guys, any idea about this hat? any comments? I have been trying to find information but there is nothing in the net.

I appreciate your input about era, material, etc, thanks
I haven’t see this brand before. That logo deposment is very cool. Can’t be sure.. but I see some hallmarks of maybe late 40s early 50s construction. But with lesser know brands hard to say.
 

Riby

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Rovaniemi, Finland
Hi!

I’m new to these forums, so forgive me if I’m breaking some protocol by asking this question in this thread.
I recently got into fedoras and bought a wool felt one from a local producer. I quickly learnt that a fur felt one would be a better choice and started browsing flea markets. Luckily I found one in my size from Finlands equivalent to Ebay for 25€! Now that I’ve received the hat it seems to be just what I wanted, but there’s no branding on it. Could you help me indentify the hat?

It seems to be rather new, since the tags inside seem modern. The seller told me that it’s from Germany. The only information that I could pull from the hat are the model number 643A and the text ”100% haar 60”. I presume 60 means size and 100% haar means it’s 100% rabbit fur felt? At least it was easier to steam to shape than the wool one.

I’ll attach here a picture of the emblem inside the hat.

Thank you for your help in advance!
 

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Hi!

I’m new to these forums, so forgive me if I’m breaking some protocol by asking this question in this thread.
I recently got into fedoras and bought a wool felt one from a local producer. I quickly learnt that a fur felt one would be a better choice and started browsing flea markets. Luckily I found one in my size from Finlands equivalent to Ebay for 25€! Now that I’ve received the hat it seems to be just what I wanted, but there’s no branding on it. Could you help me indentify the hat?

It seems to be rather new, since the tags inside seem modern. The seller told me that it’s from Germany. The only information that I could pull from the hat are the model number 643A and the text ”100% haar 60”. I presume 60 means size and 100% haar means it’s 100% rabbit fur felt? At least it was easier to steam to shape than the wool one.

I’ll attach here a picture of the emblem inside the hat.

Thank you for your help in advance!
Hi Riby. Welcome to the lounge. Congratulations on your first fur felt. If you spend much time around here it likely won’t be your last ;)

As to this branding… not anything I am familiar with. A lot of the modern European hats are produced by Tonak. Maybe some of our European friends could weigh in. @Steve1857 @steur @Pellie @Daniele Tanto

PS.. let’s see it on!
 

Steve1857

I'll Lock Up
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Location
Denmark
Hi!

I’m new to these forums, so forgive me if I’m breaking some protocol by asking this question in this thread.
I recently got into fedoras and bought a wool felt one from a local producer. I quickly learnt that a fur felt one would be a better choice and started browsing flea markets. Luckily I found one in my size from Finlands equivalent to Ebay for 25€! Now that I’ve received the hat it seems to be just what I wanted, but there’s no branding on it. Could you help me indentify the hat?

It seems to be rather new, since the tags inside seem modern. The seller told me that it’s from Germany. The only information that I could pull from the hat are the model number 643A and the text ”100% haar 60”. I presume 60 means size and 100% haar means it’s 100% rabbit fur felt? At least it was easier to steam to shape than the wool one.

I’ll attach here a picture of the emblem inside the hat.

Thank you for your help in advance!
Welcome to the FL and the wonderful world of hat collecting, Riby.

As you say, it's a very modern hat. The emblem isn't any known make. Check under the sweatband inside the hat to see if there are any other labels.
 
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Maryland
Hi!

I’m new to these forums, so forgive me if I’m breaking some protocol by asking this question in this thread.
I recently got into fedoras and bought a wool felt one from a local producer. I quickly learnt that a fur felt one would be a better choice and started browsing flea markets. Luckily I found one in my size from Finlands equivalent to Ebay for 25€! Now that I’ve received the hat it seems to be just what I wanted, but there’s no branding on it. Could you help me indentify the hat?

It seems to be rather new, since the tags inside seem modern. The seller told me that it’s from Germany. The only information that I could pull from the hat are the model number 643A and the text ”100% haar 60”. I presume 60 means size and 100% haar means it’s 100% rabbit fur felt? At least it was easier to steam to shape than the wool one.

I’ll attach here a picture of the emblem inside the hat.

Thank you for your help in advance!
Do you have more photos (side view, front view, inside view, sweatband marks, sweatband bow)? I would like to see photo of where (paper label) it says 100% Haar. Does it have a paper label behind the sweatband?
 

Riby

New in Town
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Location
Rovaniemi, Finland
Thank you all for your replies and your warm welcomes! The fedora smelt quite bad when I got it, so I put it in a sealed bag with some baking powder in a stocking and some newspaper last thursday. I’m planning on taking it out this thursday. I’ll provide the additional pictures then. When I got it I just quickly steamed it into shape and then sealed it, so unfortunately I don’t even remember where the 100% haar 60 -text was located.

The smell was something like a strong cologne with an added sweet and sour sidesmell. Could it be some sort of moth repellant smell? Fingers crossed that it gets better after my treatment!
 

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