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Hat and Rehat

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I've lost patience and decided to try the "nuclear option." The hat got a hot bath today.

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Given what they do to my clothes, I don't trust the local dry cleaners. So I decided to do something that I can control. If I ruin it, so be it. Ran a hot bath with a tablespoon of laundry detergent. Soaked the hat for about 5 minutes, then scrubbed it down with a natural bristle brush. Gave it a hot water rinse, and it is now out drying in the sun. Looks OK so far. Fingers crossed.
Sometimes you have to be bold! I hope it works out well.
 

Rmccamey

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I don't know that I would dry in direct sun, however.

I've lost patience and decided to try the "nuclear option." The hat got a hot bath today.

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Given what they do to my clothes, I don't trust the local dry cleaners. So I decided to do something that I can control. If I ruin it, so be it. Ran a hot bath with a tablespoon of laundry detergent. Soaked the hat for about 5 minutes, then scrubbed it down with a natural bristle brush. Gave it a hot water rinse, and it is now out drying in the sun. Looks OK so far. Fingers crossed.
 
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I couldn't find a dedicated thread on it, so I'll ask here.

Any suggestions on a hat to wear to the pool?

My buddy is opening his pool up for the summer next weekend, and that's one place above all others that I've not been without a hat since I started wearing them again. I don't want to break that streak just cause I may end up wearing the hat on a floaty with a drink in my hand.

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Here...

https://www.delmonicohatter.com/product/63117.htm
 

Greencanoes

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I have been reading through campaign hat threads but have come up empty.

My question is, does anyone know who is the CURRENT supplier of "stetsons" to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police?

As far as I could see, Biltmore in Canada were a supplier, but not currently.
 

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I have been reading through campaign hat threads but have come up empty.

My question is, does anyone know who is the CURRENT supplier of "stetsons" to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police?

As far as I could see, Biltmore in Canada were a supplier, but not currently.


Stratton is currently the dominant supplier of campaign hats in the US. I don’t know if they supply the RCMP.


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itsallgood

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Last summer, somewhat on impulse, I bought a Stetson Barnstormer at the outlet store in Garland. This is a modern, fur, Royal Quality, short brim, teardrop hat. Love the cornhill color, but have come to the conclusion it's not the best look for my face. If I steam the crown thoroughly, pop it out, and reshape to a centercrease or centerdent, do you think it will stay? Or, will the embedded shellac and what-have-you always show a crease line and want to return to the original bash?
 

Bill Hughes

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Last summer, somewhat on impulse, I bought a Stetson Barnstormer at the outlet store in Garland. This is a modern, fur, Royal Quality, short brim, teardrop hat. Love the cornhill color, but have come to the conclusion it's not the best look for my face. If I steam the crown thoroughly, pop it out, and reshape to a centercrease or centerdent, do you think it will stay? Or, will the embedded shellac and what-have-you always show a crease line and want to return to the original bash?
It should stay but you very well may have a crease line from the original factory set crease.
 

itsallgood

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Thanks Bill. Is there any way to get around that? I don't have a block to stretch the rather short crown over, nor do I want to increase my investment in this hat, which is about $49. Would a swish in Coleman white gas do anything to dissolve the hat stiffener that may be wanting to hold that crease line? Any other suggestions?
 
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Thanks Bill. Is there any way to get around that? I don't have a block to stretch the rather short crown over, nor do I want to increase my investment in this hat, which is about $49. Would a swish in Coleman white gas do anything to dissolve the hat stiffener that may be wanting to hold that crease line? Any other suggestions?

Lots of steam and some vigorous brushing against the grain helps. It’s possible to remove most all of the old crease with time and work. If you can find a hard domed item to press out from inside the hat you’ll have an easier time of it. If it’s a well-used hat, the harder part for me is removing the staining from where the old crease was.


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itsallgood

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Well that would be good news. The hat is as new, essentially unworn. It's been taken out once or twice to run an errand, but that's it. I think it would get a lot more use with a taller crown and a center dent. If I do it, I'll post before and after pictures. Thanks.
 

Hat and Rehat

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The problem will not be the stiffener. The factory set crease is not done by hand. It is pressed in with machinery. If an old line shows it’s because the felt was compressed. Kind of like if you dent/scratch a piece of leather. It will still be soft an flexible but the mark will show.
Another way to look at it is like an auto body man would look at a dented fender (back when they used to fix thrm, not just oorder a new one). The pressing Bill described stretched and compressed the felt unequally, because some force was very direct, while some was more lateral. Molocules of metal in the fender are moved from place to place.
The old body man adage was, first in, last out. So they would use the hammer and dolly to compress the sections that became thicker in the crash (the new convex bends) before raising the point of impact (a new concave bend, which is now thinner.)
I took cheap, used, wool hats I bought at the thrift store and soaked them in water. They look like a hood that a hatter would order before starting a hat. After trying to restrech a couple, but on "wannablocks" (as in wannabe) made at home from construction foam, I found thicker areas from prior creasing. Foam blocks have too much give to really stretch a felt, or even to press one. I started using a hard ball as close to crown radius as possible wrapped in foil, which was a softball that hadn't been hit much. Then I used the body man adage, trying to picture how a press would have moved the felt from the thin areas to the thick ones, kneading and pushing it back as much as I could.
Some thick wools wouldn't lose all of it. On fur I was able to get all the memory out of a cowboy weight, and I raised a Sovereign crown at the front for a tighter pinch and teardrop. That's when I realized what deadlyhandsome mentioned. If the crease was there long enough dirt accumulated unevenly enough to leave a shadow from staining.

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