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Does anyone have an opinion on the Akubra Hemp Range?
https://www.davidmorgan.com/shop/product/1330/hemp-range-hat

By all accounts David Morgan is a good retailer and he gets some exclusive Akubras. If you want to save some money, and if you are not in a hurry, also check out everythingaustrailian.com

I have the Balmoral and the Country Club is on order, but I don’t own the Range. My Akubra hemp is a mid-weight hat so don’t expect something airy like a Panama.
 

Fivesense

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Looking to get a Stetson Stratoliner--either silver belly or caribou. I have two Stetsons, one in tawney and one in graphite. Suggestions solicited. Thanks,
Let me be the first to say- get them both! :p

Both colors are classic. I love my Chatham Royal Deluxe in caribou as it is such a versatile, classy color. Silverbelly is also a classic so it just depends on what you want to wear it with most consistently. Graphite is close, but not the same as, caribou.

If I had to pick, I'd go with caribou for the classic Stratoliner look. Can't go wrong either way.
 
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Looking to get a Stetson Stratoliner--either silver belly or caribou. I have two Stetsons, one in tawney and one in graphite. Suggestions solicited. Thanks,

Your choice has more to do with your personal preference and matching your wardrobe. They are both great colors. I would encourage you to look at the Premier (Royal DeLuxe) open crown hats as they are, in my opinion, much superior to the other Stratoliners being offered. You should look through this thread:
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/the-stratoliner-appreciation-club-modern.58325/

Good luck and post photos of whichever hat you end up with.
 

Tennjed

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Question. I see hats listed on eBay and places like that with no standard measure, like a 7 1/2 or 60.

Often though they will have a ruler of measurement of the inside. Like 8.75" front to back and 7.75" side to side.

What would that convert to? How do you do the conversion? Apologies to my high school math and algebra teachers

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Question. I see hats listed on eBay and places like that with no standard measure, like a 7 1/2 or 60.

Often though they will have a ruler of measurement of the inside. Like 8.75" front to back and 7.75" side to side.

What would that convert to? How do you do the conversion? Apologies to my high school math and algebra teachers

You can use an ellipse circumference calculator to get the circumference.

http://www.csgnetwork.com/circumellipse.html

Or I think you can add the numbers together and divide by two to get the hat size (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

Once you have a hat that fits you well you can compare the length/width numbers to the one for sale. The circumference doesn't necessarily take the "oval" you prefer into account (regular oval, long oval, extra long oval, etc.).
 

Cornshucker77

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I found this photo online somewhere, a couple years ago.

hat_gauge_small.jpg
 
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Fivesense

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These are helpful comments, thanks. I get that caribou is mid grey, I guess I don't understand silver belly on the spectrum--light grey? Or is it more light tan? I generally wear greys and blues and blacks...sometimes a brown / dark tan coat/shoes.
Silverbelly is much more a light, whitish tan. Not white, not lite tawny. It's, well, Silverbelly!

Try to find a store to see it in person. Short of that, just Google Silverbelly hats in comparison to other colors.

For predominantly greys, blues and blacks- caribou.
 
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These are helpful comments, thanks. I get that caribou is mid grey, I guess I don't understand silver belly on the spectrum--light grey? Or is it more light tan? I generally wear greys and blues and blacks...sometimes a brown / dark tan coat/shoes.

All colors are in actuality a range of colors. I’ve seen Caribou that has been very dark as well as mid grey. Silverbelly is 1000 different colors/shades but it is a light color and not usually in the grey family. I know it’s a cop out, but since they are two staple colors you might consider getting them both. Of course we all have a budget to live within. Since you are buying new, is there a shop you can visit and try them on and see for yourself?
 

LuvMyMan

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You can use an ellipse circumference calculator to get the circumference.

http://www.csgnetwork.com/circumellipse.html

Or I think you can add the numbers together and divide by two to get the hat size (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

Once you have a hat that fits you well you can compare the length/width numbers to the one for sale. The circumference doesn't necessarily take the "oval" you prefer into account (regular oval, long oval, extra long oval, etc.).
Yes you have that right...Daniel's long oval is a real pistol to get right when it comes to the fit on a hat. In fact I am thinking he is really between a 7 1/2 and 7 5/8 long oval. No shame to admit I have had to use the hat jack so many times...and then steam like crazy and yes, then fix a "wonky" brim with some steam and even the steam iron. Very few hats have ever fit properly right out of the box, except a few vintage that came from the factory as long ovals, and one or two of the customs made in 7 1/2 long oval. It gets a bit of a hassle but the long oval is just that way. On the positive part of this, when you have to "handle" a hat to brush it, sponge it really well before you steam and hat jack or iron a hat, you get a good feel for how the felt is doing, smooth hand or not, and even learn how a hat will "set" up on a final steam to set in the bash or what you have done to the brim. Really good felt is soft enough that aside from setting a hat for more long oval, you may not have much to do in getting the bash how you want it and working the brim how you also want it with much more ease. No better way to learn what a hat is all about then to clean and steam it a bit.
 
Yes you have that right...Daniel's long oval is a real pistol to get right when it comes to the fit on a hat. In fact I am thinking he is really between a 7 1/2 and 7 5/8 long oval.

I'm in the same boat. I didn't know what a hat was supposed to fit like until I found a 7-1/2 LO or two. I've had mixed success stretching to a LO, but it doesn't keep me from wearing one of my 7-1/2 or 7-5/8 regular ovals. Beggars/choosers and all...
 

LuvMyMan

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I'm in the same boat. I didn't know what a hat was supposed to fit like until I found a 7-1/2 LO or two. I've had mixed success stretching to a LO, but it doesn't keep me from wearing one of my 7-1/2 or 7-5/8 regular ovals. Beggars/choosers and all...
I will normally steam all the way around top and bottom brim and sides of the hat with the hat jack already fairly tight, and leave it in for about five minutes before removing it. Also I tend to go a bit past what I guess is needed in the stretch as I have found the hat will almost always relax a bit soon after having hat jacked it. And if the brim got a bit wonky, use of steam or an iron to smooth that out will also increase the chance of the hat returning back to it's original sizing. If I have the time to do so, I will do the entire "episode" two times in a row which seems to them have betting lasting results. I have noticed on vintage hats, they tend to stay put much better than any newer or custom made hats. My own hat size is smaller and most of my own Fedora hats I use felt or paper strips to fit them if need be, but most fit fairly well right out of the box. Size 6 3/4 normally is a perfect fit on a regular oval.
 

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