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I like a little more shellac to my hats. That's the reason I use Bickmore. JMO If everyone liked the same women there would be a lot of fighting.

I’m an equal opportunity hatist (trademark pending). I like westerns, outdoors/adventure hat, homburgs, bowlers, stingy brims...sorry “slim brims,” caps, and most anything else. I find a use for them all. It’s akin to having a bag full of golf clubs and choosing the right one for the conditions. When I want a dress hat I want it soft and can’t image adding stiffener. I like the hats for their unique qualities be it so soft it’s almost floppy or western stiff. I don’t want to make them all feel the same. I do use stiffener, but not too often and never yet on dress hats. Just my personal preference.


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Winston Carter

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I’m an equal opportunity hatist (trademark pending). I like westerns, outdoors/adventure hat, homburgs, bowlers, stingy brims...sorry “slim brims,” caps, and most anything else. I find a use for them all. It’s akin to having a bag full of god clubs and choosing the right one for the conditions. When I want a dress hat I want it soft and can’t image adding stiffener. I like the hats for their unique qualities be it so soft it’s almost floppy or western stiff. I don’t want to make them all feel the same. I do use stiffener, but not too often and never yet on dress hats. Just my personal preference.


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I agree. I have about 15 hats that I wouldn't use anything on them. They are dress hats kept clean in boxes and they feel good when I get dressed up. The other hats are just everyday hats. Like you I have almost any kind of hat to fit the activity i'm in. My head doesn't feel right unless it is covered. A lot of that comes from the military. We had dress hats and ball caps but we always had a hat on.
 
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I like a little more shellac to my hats. That's the reason I use Bickmore. JMO If everyone liked the same women there would be a lot of fighting.

It's not a matter of like, and I'm not criticizing your preferences. My point is a hat doesn't need to be stiff to be "tough." I believe that's a misperception.


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Woodtroll

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I don't want to sound like a salesman for Bickmore Felt Stiffener but it really works good. I will steam and shape a hat, spray it down good and let it dry overnight. When it is dry I will brush it good and the felt will be nice and soft. If it is still not stiff enough for your liking just repeat. It can be re-steamed also. Hatco gets about $10 a bottle. I don't know the cost over the internet??

It sounds like you have gotten better results from the stiffener than I have, Winston. I am using the Bickmore Kahl stiffener in the black, manual pump spray bottle, that smells like hair spray; I assume this is the same thing you are using? But I have not tried brushing afterwards, so with that knowledge I will try again with more stiffener, be a little more aggressive, and brush afterwards. This is the first time I have tried anything like this so I appreciate the encouragement that it can be made to work without affecting the surface texture of the felt.

For what it's worth, this is a very thin rabbit fur hat that I am "arguing" with. I love how soft it is, but the 3" wide brim is so flimsy that it won't hold its shape even 15 minutes after I put it on my head. I'd love to get the brim "just" stiff enough to behave, while the crown remains soft. It is without a doubt the most comfortable and light hat I own (because it is so soft, thin, and flexible), so I'd really like to wear it more often.

Thank you,
Regan
 
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drmaxtejeda

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I agree. I have about 15 hats that I wouldn't use anything on them. They are dress hats kept clean in boxes and they feel good when I get dressed up. The other hats are just everyday hats. Like you I have almost any kind of hat to fit the activity i'm in. My head doesn't feel right unless it is covered. A lot of that comes from the military. We had dress hats and ball caps but we always had a hat on.
"My head doesn't feel right unless it is covered."
True, true. I feel the same.

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Winston Carter

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It sounds like you have gotten better results from the stiffener than I have, Winston. I am using the Bickmore Kahl stiffener in the black, manual pump spray bottle, that smells like hair spray; I assume this is the same thing you are using? But I have not tried brushing afterwards, so with that knowledge I will try again with more stiffener, be a little more aggressive, and brush afterwards. This is the first time I have tried anything like this so I appreciate the encouragement that it can be made to work without affecting the surface texture of the felt.

For what it's worth, this is a very thin rabbit fur hat that I am "arguing" with. I love how soft it is, but the 3" wide brim is so flimsy that it won't hold its shape even 15 minutes after I put it on my head. I'd love to get the brim "just" stiff enough to behave, while the crown remains soft. It is without a doubt the most comfortable and light hat I own (because it is so soft, thin, and flexible), so I'd really like to wear it more often.

Thank you,
Regan
I spray them down pretty good. I can get about 4 hats a bottle.
 
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I’m an equal opportunity hatist (trademark pending). I like westerns, outdoors/adventure hat, homburgs, bowlers, stingy brims...sorry “slim brims,” caps, and most anything else. I find a use for them all. It’s akin to having a bag full of god clubs and choosing the right one for the conditions. When I want a dress hat I want it soft and can’t image adding stiffener. I like the hats for their unique qualities be it so soft it’s almost floppy or western stiff. I don’t want to make them all feel the same. I do use stiffener, but not too often and never yet on dress hats. Just my personal preference.

Agree with you.

Not sure what other advice to share - if you like your hats stiff, shop for vintage after 1955. If you like them really stiff, 1965 and later.

I would suggest adding a second "T" when you trademark that slogan - it'd be a good one. And while you're at it, be sure to patent those god clubs. You'd sell a million to golfers at my talent level.

;^)
Alan
 
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Agree with you.

Not sure what other advice to share - if you like your hats stiff, shop for vintage after 1955. If you like them really stiff, 1965 and later.

I would suggest adding a second "T" when you trademark that slogan - it'd be a good one. And while you're at it, be sure to patent those god clubs. You'd sell a million to golfers at my talent level.

;^)
Alan

Darn auto correct...although.... :)


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drmaxtejeda

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Agree with you.

Not sure what other advice to share - if you like your hats stiff, shop for vintage after 1955. If you like them really stiff, 1965 and later.

I would suggest adding a second "T" when you trademark that slogan - it'd be a good one. And while you're at it, be sure to patent those god clubs. You'd sell a million to golfers at my talent level.

;^)
Alan
LOL!

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It takes courage to post from your phone. On Facebook, Dobbs always autocorrects to "Hobbs" for some reason that's beyond me. Maybe an homage to Bernard Malamud?
Oooh a Malamud reference. You are the Fixer! We have a collection of Malamud's papers at OSU. He taught there back in the day. Some original correspondence and first editions of all his books.
 

Jacob.hh.18

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Hello everyone,


i am a student from Germany and study fashion design. For one of my current courses, i want to create a look including a felt hat, inspired by an illustration from the „Sinister Sisters“ from the movie „Kubo and the two strings“. The small Problem is i have none and my Professor only limited Knowledge of hatmaking, luckily my University has quite a lot of equipment for it.

Now to the question or rather problem, how do i get a really huge and oversized felt brim stiff enough ?

To be a bit more precisely I want to make a flat top fedora with a brim that’s at least 20cm (8in) or even wider entirely out of felt if possible.

Would be a normal stiffner like shellack or something simmiliar enough that it wont "flop" down? I as well had the idea to include, maybe small hidden wooden or metal rods in the brim is that an option or another idea to hold the brim up ? Or should i maybe choose an entirely differnent material, since felt can be quite heavy ? I really have no idea what i can do so any tipp is welcome :)

Thank you very much for any answers or tipps i really look Forward hearing from even just one of u.



Sincerly your overwhelmed

Jacob
 

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