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Steve1857

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Thanks Joe. I'll try that, but it's a long winded way to go about things. Seems like the FL's system needs a complete overall if you ask me.

Happens whenever I post straight from my phone. If I save them from my google photos onto my iPad and post from there they come up fine. Or as Brent said any slight crop seems to solve it
 
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Thanks Joe. I'll try that, but it's a long winded way to go about things. Seems like the FL's system needs a complete overall if you ask me.
It is a totally odd thing that mostly for me seemed to be related to the site unable to read the directional info attached to photos taken on android devices. I have had it happen elsewhere on the internet. Even Facebook from time to time but mostly here. When I used an iPhone it didn’t seem to happen as much... HOWEVER oddly enough I have had it happen a few times when I took photos directly on my iPad. So who knows.

I also remember at one point if I posted directly from my moto phone it looked fine to me... but sideways to anyone else not viewing on android. Whatever the case both of the convoluted solutions above solved the issue.
 
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I'm going to say yes, measurements except for the crown diameter remain the same regardless of size. Using Akubra's Federation IV as the example, it's dimensional brim is advertised as being 2-1/2" (63mm) wide on the sides and 2-3/4" (70mm) front and back regardless of size. So on the smallest size available (54) the brim will appear to be wider than on the largest size (64) because of the difference in the measurement of the crowns.
I think it depends on the model and manufacturer. Here's what Matt Deckard had to say about the Fortune and Glory a while back on COW:


Also, unrelated, but for posterity:
Thanks, guys. Makes sense.
 

Belkar

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This is a Fedora right? If so, this is the style I’m after. Classical utilitarian. I’ll soon be ordering something in Dark Moss, so color is less my concern than probable dimensions.

I know I may be asking something impossible to answer with certainty, but what approximate specs do your expert eyes see?


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This is a Fedora right? If so, this is the style I’m after. Classical utilitarian. I’ll soon be ordering something in Dark Moss, so color is less my concern than probable dimensions.

I know I may be asking something impossible to answer with certainty, but what approximate specs do your expert eyes see?


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Tapered crown, 4 1/4" at the pinch. 3" to 3 1/4" on the brim. Dark Moss in theWinchester beaver is a great colour especially for an outdoorsy/hiking type hat. You can go either with a ribbon or leather band.
 

Belkar

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Tapered crown, 4 1/4" at the pinch. 3" to 3 1/4" on the brim. Dark Moss in theWinchester beaver is a great colour especially for an outdoorsy/hiking type hat. You can go either with a ribbon or leather band.

Is tapered Crown the norm?

And I like darker, earth tones. I’m thinking Black or Charcoal ribbon. With a matching brim binding because I like the look.
 
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Tapered crown, 4 1/4" at the pinch. 3" to 3 1/4" on the brim. Dark Moss in theWinchester beaver is a great colour especially for an outdoorsy/hiking type hat. You can go either with a ribbon or leather band.
Also give some thought to the look/feel of the hat you want. Do you want a floopy brim as in your example? Check with your hatter and discuss how you will be using the hat.....casual/dressy or a rugged outdoors hat. If it is for more rugged use perhaps consider going with a 50/50 beaver/rabbit in western weight or a 100% beaver in western. The western weight will get you a hat more robust and will stand up to the more rugged use than a dress weight. But discuss it with your hatter.
 
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Is tapered Crown the norm?

And I like darker, earth tones. I’m thinking Black or Charcoal ribbon. With a matching brim binding because I like the look.
There is no 'norm'....only likes and preferences. If you are ordering from Michael Gannon check out his Instagram posts. His 'look' tends to the full crown, non taper.....which I happen to love but it is not for everyone and some prefer a bit of taper/lower crown.
 

Belkar

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There is no 'norm'....only likes and preferences. If you are ordering from Michael Gannon check out his Instagram posts. His 'look' tends to the full crown, non taper.....which I happen to love but it is not for everyone and some prefer a bit of taper/lower crown.

Design wise I don’t hate my Stetson Bozeman, thought I want to pull away from the “western” look a bit. (My intent to order in western weight notwithstanding. )

Does this appear to taper? I’m not sure how noticeable this would be.

Man, going back to my office job did me about 25 pounds of no favors. :(
 

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This is a Fedora right? If so, this is the style I’m after. Classical utilitarian. I’ll soon be ordering something in Dark Moss, so color is less my concern than probable dimensions.

I know I may be asking something impossible to answer with certainty, but what approximate specs do your expert eyes see?


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It’s near impossible to accurately guess dimensions without knowing the hat size (head size) of the person. A 2 1/2” brim looks small on my large head but the same brim looks decidedly wide on my smaller headed friends.

The hat in your photo is a fedora. Dress weight beaver that’s not pounced thin makes for a rugged hat and suitable for outdoor adventures. Western weight felt can be very stiff so make sure you and your hatter agree on what you want before you proceed. I like western weight felt for some hats but it’s stiffer than what I want for most hats, including most western style hats.

Nothing is worse than spending a lot and waiting months and ending up with a hat you that’s not what you want. If you tell your hatter your size and send him that photo he/she should be able to get you the right proportions. Most all hats some some degree of taper, and the degree is a personal preference. I mostly like minimal taper, but some styles need more taper. Communication with your hatter is paramount.

Good luck.
 

nvilletele

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I’ve been away for a while. Still wearing my hats, and still buying some, though not so often anymore since I have way too many as it is. (Ok, I do realize there is no such thing as too many hats.)

I recently helped my friend get a nice Panama for her man for their anniversary, and in doing so came across a Biltmore Montreal Panama in my size (7 1/4) on sale, for around $175. It is the hat in my avatar. It is one of Biltmore’s highest quality panamas (I think they have one that is a higher quality weave).

Now, I already have one of these, but the price was really great, so I went ahead and bought it, I guess sort of as an insurance policy, as I really love this hat. Plus my current Montreal brim won’t currently flip down, unless I steam and reshape it (it’s a 2”). It may have been as a result of a little stretching I once did on the hat. But I do have 50 or 60 hats already, maybe more.

Anyway, my question is: Did I do the right thing to get a second one of these, under these circumstances?

Or is that, as I suspect, a very silly question?
 
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Happens whenever I post straight from my phone. If I save them from my google photos onto my iPad and post from there they come up fine. Or as Brent said any slight crop seems to solve it
It has to do with file size. Cell phone images seem to exceed ideal direct lounge posting limits that appear ok on the phone but present sideways to most members. Cropping or resizing diminishes file size and present upright when posted and viewed.
This works to re-size phone images.
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The Shoe

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Just wondering how the add situation is. Are they still making it impossible to navigate?
Just asking because if it has improved, I’m quite happy to disable my add blocker as I would like to support the site.
 

Steve1857

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Thanks for that, Snowman. Thumbnails have worked best for me before. I'll try Full Image.

As of now it seems Brent's @deadlyhandsome and Joe's @Blare suggestion of cropping has helped.

Thank you to all 3 of you.

Mine post sideways unless I click on “Full Image” instead of “Thumbnail.” It seems to default to the thumbnail if you don’t make a choice.
 

Chriswithahat

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Hi everyone, I'm new here on the forum and essentially joined with a specific and rather uncommon question: I'd like to have a fedora made with my own rabbit fur, which our pet rabbits have lost seasonally over the years.

Despite a high fluffy volume it's still only about 70g so it would have to be mixed with the same amount of other fur (maybe beaver?). With a high initial motivation I started contacting a variety of small-business hatters here in Germany and Austria, only to find out that they don't produce their own stumps. Even the largest German stump distributor apparently buys stumps abroad and all were rather pessimistic about my plans.

So... does anyone of you happen to know a workshop that still creates fur-felt stumps on a small scale or has the capability to do so? Akubra performs the whole process from scratch but it would be exceedingly unlikely they'd stop the machinery to produce *one* crazy man's individual stump :) Or are there any small felt-producers out there somewhere that might be able to help? Any hints and suggestions will be highly appreciated!
 
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Hi everyone, I'm new here on the forum and essentially joined with a specific and rather uncommon question: I'd like to have a fedora made with my own rabbit fur, which our pet rabbits have lost seasonally over the years.

Despite a high fluffy volume it's still only about 70g so it would have to be mixed with the same amount of other fur (maybe beaver?). With a high initial motivation I started contacting a variety of small-business hatters here in Germany and Austria, only to find out that they don't produce their own stumps. Even the largest German stump distributor apparently buys stumps abroad and all were rather pessimistic about my plans.

So... does anyone of you happen to know a workshop that still creates fur-felt stumps on a small scale or has the capability to do so? Akubra performs the whole process from scratch but it would be exceedingly unlikely they'd stop the machinery to produce *one* crazy man's individual stump :) Or are there any small felt-producers out there somewhere that might be able to help? Any hints and suggestions will be highly appreciated!
Great idea but I suspect you might have better luck locating Yeti or Jimmy Hoffa.
 
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Hi everyone, I'm new here on the forum and essentially joined with a specific and rather uncommon question: I'd like to have a fedora made with my own rabbit fur, which our pet rabbits have lost seasonally over the years.

Despite a high fluffy volume it's still only about 70g so it would have to be mixed with the same amount of other fur (maybe beaver?). With a high initial motivation I started contacting a variety of small-business hatters here in Germany and Austria, only to find out that they don't produce their own stumps. Even the largest German stump distributor apparently buys stumps abroad and all were rather pessimistic about my plans.

So... does anyone of you happen to know a workshop that still creates fur-felt stumps on a small scale or has the capability to do so? Akubra performs the whole process from scratch but it would be exceedingly unlikely they'd stop the machinery to produce *one* crazy man's individual stump :) Or are there any small felt-producers out there somewhere that might be able to help? Any hints and suggestions will be highly appreciated!

When I think back to how fur felt is created, the skins are normally relieved of their fur by a certain process, and I always understood that the this process would give you a different type of fur profile than that which the animal has shedded. Certainly your fur could be felted, but would it be adequate for a hat? That is what I'm unsure of, not to mention the process it takes to create the felt hood (cone) - that which you are referring to as the stump. I think 70g of fur would be on the skinny end and you would need to supplement it with much more to felt an adequate hood.

I suppose it could be a home project, but I really wouldn't know where to start. Maybe it's like delivering a baby, "First, you boil some water..."
 

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