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[dannyk]

I don’t doubt a lot probably juice up. Especially in some of the extreme cases we have seen over the years. But I go back to what I said earlier in this thread. For people like us who have work that gets in the way, and don’t have dieticians or personal cooks etc... there’s a million distractions and tests of will power. But give an actor who doesn’t have a 9-5 job to worry about and they have cooks, dieticians, personal trainers, life coaches, sleep specialists, and unlimited budget for supplements. They can certainly make
Things happen us normal folk cannot.

 

[Jejupe]

Most if not all A-list actors, whose muscular apperance is part of their actor ”package” use performance enhancing drugs.

evidence please

Of course I have no evidence. Its just my 25 years of training together with both users and non users that has thought me how people can build lean muscle mass with and without doping. To me this is as clear as day follows night.

If you have similar background and you have different opinion about these actors, I’d be very interested to hear your reasoning.

 

[Jejupe]

I don’t doubt a lot probably juice up. Especially in some of the extreme cases we have seen over the years. But I go back to what I said earlier in this thread. For people like us who have work that gets in the way, and don’t have dieticians or personal cooks etc... there’s a million distractions and tests of will power. But give an actor who doesn’t have a 9-5 job to worry about and they have cooks, dieticians, personal trainers, life coaches, sleep specialists, and unlimited budget for supplements. They can certainly make
Things happen us normal folk cannot.

But how many of them really take that high road when an easier solution is offered? You don’t even need to call it doping, just go to suitable doctor who will prescribe you some test for andropause and maybe a little HGH for antiaging... and ”suitable” doctor will know that as an actor preparing for a role you will need bigger doses than average use... er patient.

 

[dannyk]

But how many of them really take that high road when an easier solution is offered? You don’t even need to call it doping, just go to suitable doctor who will prescribe you some test for andropause and maybe a little HGH for antiaging... and ”suitable” doctor will know that as an actor preparing for a role you will need bigger doses than average use... er patient.

Oh I’m sure a ton do this. Absolutely. I’m not saying that to say “how dare you accuse these innocent angels!” Haha. I’m just acknowledging the fact that when your 9-5 job is to workout for a role and you have all the money to eat right and supplement right, and then either spend or have the studio pay for all the trainers and cooks and coaches, you most certainly can do crazy amounts of things us normal blokes just can’t even fathom. How many do it the “right way” and how many “cheat” I don’t know.

 

[breezer]

Its just my 25 years of training together with both users and non users that has thought me how people can build lean muscle mass with and without doping. To me this is as clear as day follows night.

If you have similar background and you have different opinion about these actors, I’d be very interested to hear your reasoning.

I'm a year or 2 shy of working 25 years in the film business. You were categorical in your assertion that A list actors use steroids to bulk up. I merely asked for evidence.....and it turns out, by your own admission, you have no evidence. So perhaps you should have said ' I suspect some actors abuse steroids in order to prepare for roles'.......

 

[Jejupe]

Oh I’m sure a ton do this. Absolutely. I’m not saying that to say “how dare you accuse these innocent angels!” Haha. I’m just acknowledging the fact that when your 9-5 job is to workout for a role and you have all the money to eat right and supplement right, and then either spend or have the studio pay for all the trainers and cooks and coaches, you most certainly can do crazy amounts of things us normal blokes just can’t even fathom. How many do it the “right way” and how many “cheat” I don’t know.

Sure, but then one would have live like a bodubuilding monk pretty much all their lives and they wouldn’t still look very muscular to the average joe who is used to seeing chemically enhanced muscles on the screen. In fact I think even the biggests 100 % natural bodybuilder wouldn’t look very impressive to (us) people who have used to seeing unnatural muscle masses.

Most of us would be lucky (= have good genetics and work moral) if we could reach even Brad Pitt at fight club level with all the time and money in the world.

 

[Jejupe]

Its just my 25 years of training together with both users and non users that has thought me how people can build lean muscle mass with and without doping. To me this is as clear as day follows night.

If you have similar background and you have different opinion about these actors, I’d be very interested to hear your reasoning.

I'm a year or 2 shy of working 25 years in the film business. You were categorical in your assertion that A list actors use steroids to bulk up. I merely asked for evidence.....and it turns out, by your own admission, you have no evidence. So perhaps you should have said ' I suspect some actors abuse steroids in order to prepare for roles'.......

I said what I said and I stand behind it. Please note that I didn’t claim all A-list actors to be users, just majority of those who has muscular physique as part of their package.

But this is just like arquing with someone who doesn’t believe that 100 meter runners or weight lifters use doping if they haven’t been caught. You have your truth and I have mine. I have no interest in converting you to see things my way.

 

[ProteinNerd]

I'm with @Jejupe, having worked in the fitness industry as a gym manager many years ago, it's staggering how many average gym goers are using steroids (and stacking multiple types, not just one). To think someone whose very livelihood and in most cases millions of dollars is resting on them looking like a real life superhero isn't going to use whatever means is possible....

Having said that, they still need to work out damn hard and eat incredibly well structured diets, get lots of sleep etc, its not like you just inject yourself with this and swallow that and in a week you look like Chris Hemsworth.

 

[Jejupe]

I'm with @Jejupe, having worked in the fitness industry as a gym manager many years ago, it's staggering how many average gym goers are using steroids (and stacking multiple types, not just one). To think someone whose very livelihood and in most cases millions of dollars is resting on them looking like a real life superhero isn't going to use whatever means is possible....

Having said that, they still need to work out damn hard and eat incredibly well structured diets, get lots of sleep etc, its not like you just inject yourself with this and swallow that and in a week you look like Chris Hemsworth.

Well said. One of the biggest misunderstandings is that one doesn’t need to work hard to get muscles and strength if they’re using. Actually you will probably work out even harder and more often because the drugs make it possible recuparate faster and train harder.

Another thing that drugs make possible is to get from loose couch potato to semifit ”my abs are showing” condition in 6 months, if one, for example, would have to remove ones shirt in front of camera...

 

[ton312]

I said what I said and I stand behind it. Please note that I didn’t claim all A-list actors to be users, just majority of those who has muscular physique as part of their package.

But this is just like arquing with someone who doesn’t believe that 100 meter runners or weight lifters use doping if they haven’t been caught. You have your truth and I have mine. I have no interest in converting you to see things my way.

Truthfully there really isn't any argument to be had. And, as PN noted, using gear doesn't give one a free pass to that physique. There's still a "stack" of science behind the training, diet and overall lifestyle, etc.
but to assume for one minute that these guys, well into their late 30's, 40's (even 50's) aren't using is just turning a blind eye to reality. Except for Stallone, he's all natural. LOOL!!

 

[dannyk]

Truthfully there really isn't any argument to be had. And, as PN noted, using gear doesn't give one a free pass to that physique. There's still a "stack" of science behind the training, diet and overall lifestyle, etc.
but to assume for one minute that these guys, well into their late 30's, 40's (even 50's) aren't using is just turning a blind eye to reality. Except for Stallone, he's all natural. LOOL!!

Completely unrelated fun fact about Stallone. Everyone assumes because of the way he speaks that’s he’s not very intelligent. This isn’t to defend his intelligence I have no idea if he’s smart or not ha. But he speaks slowly, mumbles and out of the side of his mouth because of a complication during childbirth. They used two pairs of forceps to get his fat baby ass out and they severed a nerve in his face that caused permanent paralysis. No need to thank me, hold your applause I’m just here to annoy everyone with my useless facts haha.

 

[ton312]

Completely unrelated fun fact about Stallone. Everyone assumes because of the way he speaks that’s he’s a not very intelligent. This isn’t to defend his intelligence I have no idea if he’s smart or not ha. But he speaks slowly, mumbles and out of the side of his mouth because of a complication during childbirth. They used two pairs of forceps to get his fat baby ass out and they served a nerve in his face that caused permanent paralysis. No need to thank me, hold your applause I’m just here to annoy everyone with my useless facts haha.

Well, he wrote Rocky and Rambo so as far as I can tell he's a genius!

 

[ton312]

An even more fun fact. Aquaman and Rocky both appeared in the same movie. A delightfully horrible picture.

 

[dannyk]

Becsuse of Rocky and now Creed speaking of actors people assume are idiots but are actually amazing. Dolph Lundgren has a masters in chemical engineering from Ubiversity of Sydney and got a Fulbright Scholorship to MIT but dropped out to pursue acting. He also speaks English and Swedish perfectly and can also speak Spanish, Japanese, French, German and Italian.

 

[torfjord]

It’s been a couple of years since I last watched this, but I remember this as a rather informative and entertaining documentary about performance enhancing drugs:

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[red devil]

It’s been a couple of years since I last watched this, but I remember this as a rather informative and entertaining documentary about performance enhancing drugs:

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Ah yeah, I was going to recommend that one

Actors are not being tested, so the chance of them being caught are rare, the only occurrence that comes to mind is Stallone actually, he was caught with growth hormones a few years ago.

 

[ton312]

Ah yeah, I was going to recommend that one

Actors are not being tested, so the chance of them being caught are rare, the only occurrence that comes to mind is Stallone actually, he was caught with growth hormones a few years ago.

I believe he actually praised the drugs as the fountain of youth! Man good for him I say. If you get that far down the road....why not? I'll also have cigarettes and donuts for breakfast. Please and thank you.

 

[red devil]

I believe he actually praised the drugs as the fountain of youth! Man good for him I say. If you get that far down the road....why not? I'll also have cigarettes and donuts for breakfast. Please and thank you.

The relation with steroids and other products in the same vein can be quite toxic... I noticed that when people admit using them, they will try very hard to push them onto you