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Thanks for the great pic of some spirited Hurricane pilots!
No doubt the pilots in that photo would disapprove of racist graffiti. But they're probably not around to ask, so it's bad form to use their images for anything other than historical purposes.That's a point of view to which you're entitled, one might say that the graffiti is also highly disrespectful to their memory.
Beautiful Jacket..D.G. LTD IRVIN SIZE 5
This thread has been relatively sleepy recently so I thought I might try to wake it up with this post! D.G. Ltd or D.G.L (London) made some of the best quality Irvins supplied to the RAF. They were in the premier league along with Irvin Air Chute. This newly acquired jacket dates from around 1942 and is typical of mid War construction with the four panel front and back.
The jacket is in remarkable condition with very few signs of wear. The stitching is straight and secure. The cooper-coloured fleece is rarer than the more normal honey coloured variety. As a size 5 its a decent fit and very comfortable to wear.
The zips are all made by Lightning and the "W" on the sleeve zips denotes that they were made at Witton in Birmingham. The main zip is interesting and unsual in that it fastens the American way. Apart from the elastic collar strap everything is original to the jacket. It has had one light coat of Pecards to protect the leather.
Thanks for mentioning that Trenton has a museum. When I was on the tow rope course with Air Cadets in 1990 they gave us the run of the base but I didn't realize they had a museum. The next time I'm heading up to Ottawa I'll make sure to stop.I was at the Quinte International Air Show up at RCAF Trenton a couple of weekends ago and, after a day's baking in the unforgiving sun and heat as I tried to get photos of the flying aircraft, went to the museum building on my way out to hunt down the H.P. Halifax there (one of only three left in intact condition! And it's bigger than I expected! Really good to see).
And in a glass display case was this Irvin - with a very interesting period repair to the front panel! I can't imagine any of us being happy with this repair job if we needed a repair on our Irvin front panel ... but it's authentic!
And it has a Lightning zip.
The jacket dates to 1942-3 and the repair is post War. The Lightning main zip is not the variety used on Wartime Irvins. Refurbishment of Irvins was usually carried out to a high standard by AM contractors, using similar colour skin and this "repair" was done to increase the size of the jacket. The zip is now off-set as seen on 1970s civilian jackets and it was most likely adapted during that decade.
Thanks for mentioning that Trenton has a museum. When I was on the tow rope course with Air Cadets in 1990 they gave us the run of the base but I didn't realize they had a museum. The next time I'm heading up to Ottawa I'll make sure to stop.
I suggest posting your question in the "Irvin repro" thread here: http://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/all-repro-r-a-f-irvin-type-jackets.35314/, which may get you more responses.Was looking to buy an Eastman Irvin, but I found some offers from Aero, and would like to ask if an 42 Irvin with 26" sleeves and 24.5" back would fit well?
I usually wear 40, chest 40.5", shoulders around 18", sleeves 25.5", waist 38", height 6'0".
Anyone has any idea if Aero Irvin's run small or big, if the sleeves won't be too long in this particular style or if the back won't be too short.
I suggest posting your question in the "Irvin repro" thread here: http://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/all-repro-r-a-f-irvin-type-jackets.35314/, which may get you more responses.