Aero to make jackets for new Hollywood WW2 Film, "The Monuments Men"

[thor]

I have much bigger nose than George Clooney.

I presume these guys aren't getting special treatment and also have to wait.

SJ

With a tight film shoot schedule and an announced release date, Hollywood types are not used to waiting 6 months for a piece of wardrobe to be finished. I bet all jackets for this movie are already completed and are on set being worn by the respective actors. Same thing with "Red tails" or "Pearl Harbor". Hollywood is not on the same plane of existence as us average joes .

 

[Persimmon]

http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsma..._map={"10152396775245368":".UOqXEe6w7go.like"

Just discovered this via the Aero Facebook page. Interesting premise - and a refreshing change from the combat-fixation of most WW2 era pictures of recent years. (Cue howls of protest that Brand X A2s are so far more accurate than Aero's offerings, and that the film will be rubbish as a result... lol ).

It will be interesting to see if Aero put out any specific models / lines relating to this, in the same vein as ELC's Pearl Harbour jackets and Red Tails bits.

What a pity they have selected Aero as the supplier. I know to some(most of the folks here) the fact that Aero's A2 jackets are so poor quality in terms of leather, the designs are more close to Mall Jackets than true contract specifications and the fit is so poor is neither here nor there but actually it does make you wonder about how Hollywood scrimp and save on non essentials just to keep to budget.
Lets hope all the other props are equally not so out of kilter to spoil the enjoyment of the film
I also hope Aero dont go to the Eastman publicity end where you would have thought from their website that every A2 in Red Tails was made by them where as it was only the back ground characters with all the lead males wearing Goodwear A2's.
Of course with timescales and filming being what it is these jackets will already be produced so its their Steer Horse versions perhaps. I wonder if they sold the producers on expensive horse !! No chance to get perhaps newer better quality jackets now that Ken has returned to the fold.

 

[majormajor]

the fact that Aero's A2 jackets are so poor quality in terms of leather, the designs are more close to Mall Jackets

Utter B*LL*X

 

[Sloan1874]

Wow. don't know where to start with that one. Do you own many Aero A-2s, Persimmon? You sound awfully knowledgeable.
But to quote Edward's words: "Cue howls of protest that Brand X A2s are so far more accurate than Aero's offerings, and that the film will be rubbish as a result..." He wasn't wrong...

 

[Peter Mackin]

Persimmon aint an aero fan it seems,,,,bet he is a stitch counter,,,just saying like

 

[majormajor]

No chance to get perhaps newer better quality jackets now that Ken has returned to the fold.

Sounds to me like they just let the children out of school early today.

 

[Persimmon]

Wow. don't know where to start with that one. Do you own many Aero A-2s, Persimmon? You sound awfully knowledgeable.
But to quote Edward's words: "Cue howls of protest that Brand X A2s are so far more accurate than Aero's offerings, and that the film will be rubbish as a result..." He wasn't wrong...

I have owned several Aero's including purchased direct when I visited the factory.
I have also owned Eastman, RMNZ and Goodwears
All A2 of course.
I appreciate Aero do lots of other types of jackets and I have no knowledge of the strength of those in terms of quality etc
Reading the posts on the Forum over the years they seem to be good.

As for A2's the quality of Aero's A2's are way down the pecking order.
Major major can shout abuse all he likes but its true.

To purchase any jacket shows commitment to that brand and to travel to Scotland to purchase direct shows perhaps further commitment on my part to Aero. Unfortunately the quality of their A2's is poor in the current state of the market and competitors have passed them by and left them for dead
And I just dont mean Goodwear.

My point is that Aero seems to be a budget cheap option for the studio who will spend a fortune on actors and make the props fit whats left of the money.
I dont need to see every last bit to be inch perfect but little details can make the difference. Especially when there is often no story to sustain the movie.

12 o clock High still sets the standard for the highest wartime USAAF films because the story was so spot on. If you look at some of the characters (Lt Bishop) for example and this at a time when when A2's were plentiful, his is a 2 piece back A2 and this was a time when every Vet still had his A2 and was probably painting in them

 

[majormajor]

I have owned several Aero's including purchased direct when I visited the factory.
I have also owned Eastman, RMNZ and Goodwears
All A2 of course.

So have LOTS of folks on here. And you are welcome to your "expert" opinions.

But by making snide personal comments about ANY jacket producer, you simply make yourself sound like a pr*ck

 

[HoosierDaddy]

This is just one of the VLJ members that continue to lead the charge on that forum that anything Aero is surely crap. Anything Fedora lounge (Hat Club)generally falls into that same category as well(as far as they are concerned). The enjoyment of a few to foster resentment with an upper crust elite haughtiness of insults and 'all knowing'. A stitch Nazi attitude that includes insults from the obvious high and mighty. It has taken over the VLJ and occassionally attempts to feed it's pompousness here. Read post #22 carefully and the belittling with extra unneeded contempt is glaring. Tells anyone all they need to know about this mindset. Gets old on the VLJ..but always a delightful performance for some.
HD

 

[Edward]

What a pity they have selected Aero as the supplier.

Ha.... Just don't come looking to me for racing tips, guys: this was as predictable as colder weather in the Winter. lol

I know to some(most of the folks here) the fact that Aero's A2 jackets are so poor quality in terms of leather, the designs are more close to Mall Jackets than true contract specifications and the fit is so poor is neither here nor there

Well, you'e welcome to your opinion. I'd never claim Aero's jacket to be as accurate as a Goodwear, though the degrees of difference between Aero, ELC and up to Goodwear are not as huge as some like to believe (it's not as if they only do A2s in black lambskin, or such). I'll have to disagree with you entirely and completely in terms of quality of Aero's A2s as garments. Every one I have seen or handled (included the goatskin model I bought used a couple of years ago) is as good as the ELC equivalents I have handled (and including the ELC Roughwear (if memory serves) in horse that I also bought used. My ELC is, when you get down to the minimal details, certainly a more accurate jacket, though as a piece of civilian clothing with a WW2 era feel to it, no better. Of course you may have as low an opinion of Eastman's product as you clearly do those from Aero.

but actually it does make you wonder about how Hollywood scrimp and save on non essentials just to keep to budget.

Naturally, they'll be keeping the budget as low as they reasonably can - as any business venture.

Lets hope all the other props are equally not so out of kilter to spoil the enjoyment of the film

I suspect if you're as bothered by their choice of Aero for the jackets as your post would indicate, it won't be a production to your tastes...

I also hope Aero dont go to the Eastman publicity end where you would have thought from their website that every A2 in Red Tails was made by them where as it was only the back ground characters with all the lead males wearing Goodwear A2's.

Yes, that was unintentionally misleading, I agree... though I'm not entirely sure, to be fair, how else they might have worded it in order to also avoid it coming across as "our jackets were just dandy for the extras, but they went with somebody else for the hero jackets!" Can't imagine that being exactly a message they'd want to give out either! Reminds me of Wested with the way their Indy jackets are advertised.

Of course with timescales and filming being what it is these jackets will already be produced so its their Steer Horse versions perhaps. I wonder if they sold the producers on expensive horse !!

I'm sure the jackets may well already be made. Steer? Eastman, I know have made steer A2s in the past, which were always advertised openly as such, and of course it has now been confirmed that many original A2s were indeed steer - just as while horse was the original spec, many were also made in goat. Of course, you're referring to the problem Aero uncovered where someone was selling heavy steer as front quarter horsehide. As you will no doubt be aware, Aero have never offered FQHH A2s as standard, nor would there be any reason for a wardrobe department to want such a spec, so it seems at most highly unlikely for this to have occurred, and somewhat disingenuous on your part to insinuate that it might.

No chance to get perhaps newer better quality jackets now that Ken has returned to the fold.

Ah, well... again, you are entitled to that opinion, even if few around here will share it. Indeed, this last statement probably more than anything explains the vitriol you deliver above.

 

[Edward]

This is just one of the VLJ members that continue to lead the charge on that forum that anything Aero is surely crap. Anything Fedora lounge (Hat Club)generally falls into that same category as well(as far as they are concerned). The enjoyment of a few to foster resentment with an upper crust elite haughtiness of insults and 'all knowing'. A stitch Nazi attitude that includes insults from the obvious high and mighty. It has taken over the VLJ and occassionally attempts to feed it's pompousness here. Read post #22 carefully and the belittling with extra unneeded contempt is glaring. Tells anyone all they need to know about this mindset. Gets old on the VLJ..but always a delightful performance for some.
HD

That's a shame. I was considering joining that forum, but perhaps not for me. I'm all for differences of opinion (it would get rather dull if we al liked the same thing), but I've never understood the sort of mindset that is so keen to push one subjective opinion as if objective truth. That and an inability to comprehend the distinction between design and quality is also one of my personal bugbears.

 

[Davy Crockett]

If Persimmon rates Aero as crap! why has he had several in his ownership? When I buy something I consider to be crap I would consider myself a
fool to purchase from them again!

D

 

[Persimmon]

So have LOTS of folks on here. And you are welcome to your "expert" opinions.

But by making snide personal comments about ANY jacket producer, you simply make yourself sound like a pr*ck

Ha ha I think you are the one doing that to yourself with such comments !!
The forum is about judgement on jacket qualities not insults to other members.

 

[Sloan1874]

Given that there has been a long thread complaining about deteriorating knits on Eastman A-2s compared to Aero ones, I think you're in a minority here on the quality question. Also, Aero have been used in a very broad spread of military films for a good 30 years, through economically lean and rich periods - Steven Spielberg used them for Band of Bros and Empire of the Sun, a man not exactly confined by executive budgets - so to simply say they're the 'budget option' doesn't really stand-up.
But you're welcome to your opinion, though I tried on an Aero A-2 while I was picking up my LHB, was really impressed by the quality, it felt a really solid jacket , and almost impulse bought it on the spot - it was only my overdraft limit that stopped me - so I'm going to have to differ with you.

 

[Persimmon]

That's a shame. I was considering joining that forum, but perhaps not for me. I'm all for differences of opinion (it would get rather dull if we al liked the same thing), but I've never understood the sort of mindset that is so keen to push one subjective opinion as if objective truth. That and an inability to comprehend the distinction between design and quality is also one of my personal bugbears.

Please do join.
Members enjoy their Aero, Eastman Kelso, RMNZ, Goodwear leather jackets and all are welcome.

Its common knowledge that Aero do great "non military " jackets but on the VLJ forum it does specialise more on military jackets and thst is clearly not Aero's strength.

On this Forum Aero seem to lead the way but I guess thats because lots of their non military jackets are sold and purchased with strong demand.

HD > Common you should know better to through insults at me !!

 

[Persimmon]

If Persimmon rates Aero as crap! why has he had several in his ownership? When I buy something I consider to be crap I would consider myself a
fool to purchase from them again!

D

Thanks for the kind thoughts.
I purchased the Aero's and as my knowledge and tastes grew so did my movements to buy better quality A2 jackets. In terms of fit, quality of leather, colour and yes period specifications.

Have I got them now. No traded them up for better suppliers.

We are all learning and as we learn we hopefully purchase better.
Would I be a fool if I purchased a Aero A2 today with their current level of jackets available. Yes I would.

 

[Persimmon]

Given that there has been a long thread complaining about deteriorating knits on Eastman A-2s compared to Aero ones, I think you're in a minority here on the quality question. Also, Aero have been used in a very broad spread of military films for a good 30 years, through economically lean and rich periods - Steven Spielberg used them for Band of Bros and Empire of the Sun, a man not exactly confined by executive budgets - so to simply say they're the 'budget option' doesn't really stand-up.
But you're welcome to your opinion, though I tried on an Aero A-2 while I was picking up my LHB, was really impressed by the quality, it felt a really solid jacket , and almost impulse bought it on the spot - it was only my overdraft limit that stopped me - so I'm going to have to differ with you.

Sloan, I think as you point out we are all entitled to our opinions. Sometimes with knowledge on a specific subject comes a viewpoint.
I have no knowledge on Aero's non military jackets so they may well be the best out in the market. As for their military A2's that is not the case.
As for the films you mention Band of Brothers certaintly used RMNZ as a supplier. Not sure about the other film but again that was a good few years ago when choice and quality offered was less.
Now Aero has been surpassed on their military jackets by most manufacturers these days.
Thus my surprise that a Hollywood studio would go to the well again now. Unless it was for budgetary reasons

 

[majormajor]

Would I be a fool if I purchased a Aero A2 today with their current level of jackets available. Yes I would.

Enough "expert" pontification for one day. VLJ - smugness personified.

Would I be a fool if I went on VLJ today with their current level of anal retention? Yes I would:eeek:

 

[HoosierDaddy]

The only intent is to upset the silly FL and Aero applecart..then skedaddle back to VLJ to heehaw about the results with a few who would join in the chuckle. Nothing to be taken with any seriousness whatsoever.
HD

 

[Persimmon]

Enough "expert" pontification for one day. VLJ - smugness personified.

Would I be a fool if I went on VLJ today with their current level of anal retention? Yes I would:eeek:

Major major. Everyone is welcome there. Experienced or beginners. Often the more experienced are still learning.
It is slightly more specialized in that it just features more on military jackets - new and repro's wheras as this Forum offers so much more in many different catagories.

As for name calling and poor remarks which you seem to enjoy perhaps we not go for that but again all are welcome. To share knowledge and to learn. To show jackets off and to socialize.