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Aero options balancing strong grain and good longevity

BB1239

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I've considered it! Unfortunately, the pebbled look seems to prevent that heavy grain from ever setting in. I've seen some lovely goat (and have worn some way back when), and it certain would outlive me - but when I say heavy grain, I mean something like this:

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I've never seen anything but steer and horse get that "tactile" level of graininess to it.
Sweet mother of grain, what on earth is that jacket and where do we all get one! Amazing
 

navetsea

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It is. I had this really informative talk about leather with a person who works at a tannery in Italy (met them through Poell server) and to vastly simplify things - Not by choice but by need because full, technical explanation went way over my head - several ingredients that the Horween's CXL tanning method consists of, decompose faster in humid, warm and salty climate than they would in, say, the UK or German weather which, in turn, acts as a cascade and accelerates the degradation of the leather.

It's wax, I think but I'm not sure but that's why applying conditioner on an already crusty jacket doesn't do nothing.

The more basic the chrome tanning, the longer will the jacket live so basically, many jackets will still live a long, happy life in Japan, as they do, especially if kept safe but leather in general has a shorter life-span in Japan.

My Kendo teacher had to replace all the leather parts of his katana three times as often whilst training in Japan and leather straps, belts, etc. just weren't viable.

Another example are all those sicc fadezzz on jeans that all turn up on guys from tropical countries, who wore their denims for three months, only on Sundays, on the way to church while Joe from North Dakota had to use Eyedropper tool in Photoshop to finally realize how his jeans stopped being a perfect indigo after 4 years of daily (and nightly) wear.
I live in Indonesia the land of faded denim, I wore mine to sleep literally 24/7 for few months before washing by hand inside out, mine has ZERO fades over 5 years, I suspect a lot more "process" done to them using the climate as an excuse.

I've heard about Kalium Permanganat powder usually sold in drugstore to clean and heal wound, some would use this mixed with water to accelerate fading, I imagine if the creasing is already formed, and you have wet rag and use a bit of chemical and rub off the protruding areas even just a little bit but done several times it will result in more contrast fading without mechanical damage from rubbing with sand paper. just a wet towel can be used to rub indigo off from denim, I've seen the method of washing denim too, put the denim on the floor then sprinkle powder detergent over it and brush it like (Kiff or Vim) powder and let it sit on the denim and spray off the soap without even soaking the jeans of course the color would be quickly fading.
 
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KingCotton

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How do people go months without washing your jeans? I mean granted I am dealing with cattle and mud and such...but seriously....even if I don't, I can't go a week without washing them....
 

navetsea

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How do people go months without washing your jeans? I mean granted I am dealing with cattle and mud and such...but seriously....even if I don't, I can't go a week without washing them....
if you don't sweat in your jeans or dust don't get into it, why not? I rarely sweat in my jeans, I brush them outside and inside, sometime I vacuum clean them.
 

navetsea

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my theory about leather rot in japan but not souther down where the air is as humid, is because in japan there is a winter period, and people there might wear the jacket in all year to speed up character, so they may sweat in it and salt get deposited in it, and then during winter the salt is frozen crystalizing inside the leather and ruins the fibers from inside

I think the ruined rear liner along the hemline is from wearing the jacket with raw sandpapery edge of the jeans's waistband and combined with 4mm (or thicker) raw edge of the vegtan belt. I bet many of the people wearing raw denim and leather jacket there works in "denim shop" or "denim workshop" or somekind of workshop, people who work in office most likely wear suit, so if they wear the jacket to work all day instead of outerwear to wear outside and hanged once indoor or while working, then accelerated wear areas might happen. I see in denim community people also tend to wear cap or hat indoor allday, while originally in the past people took off their jacket and hat once indoor and hang them, so naturally they sweat in them more now.

Here in my country I also see a lot of people wear their cap inside, in the church for example seems like wearing jacket and hat while sitting inside is seen as normal nowadays. I find myself always taking off my cap indoor and depending on the jacket and my feeling about it (denim jacket I wear inside, most leather jackets I take off, unless it has button and look more like a blazer than a jacket, field jacket like m65 I always take off inside too)
 
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