I'd say their evolution was parallel, rather than one coming from the other.
The design on the shawl collar models goes back to the 19th century, with their main period of popularity coming between 1912-1916.
I'm not sure what they're called, but they turn up frequently at the thrift shops out here. The ones I see are generally pleated and have a hook and eye closure like a pre-tied bow tie.
Alan, I think the KB&Co is Keith Bros & Company, not Browning King. They were a hat maker out of Chicago who appear to have gone out of business in the early part of the century.
Alan, really thrilled to see that one in good hands. I've been holding onto it for six years or so- just couldn't bear to part with it but finally ran out of space for having my collection. Looks fantastic on you!
I'm in a small apartment, so I try to move things out as fast as I get them in to keep my surroundings as manageable as possible. Try is the operative word there, because it does tend to stack up in my closet and on my racks.
I'll take some pics of my setup sometime. You'd probably be amazed...
It's definitely more of a work coat than a dress coat. Like mackinaws of that era, it's unlined (except for the sleeves). Back when they made coats like this from wool thick enough to provide all the insulation necessary. I only wish it had a label in it somewhere.
Similar overall, and close in era, but extremely different in all the details.
That said, it's a beast of a coat. The button on rear belt likely originally had button on quarter belts to form a full belt. This same style belt was common on the longer "half-belt" leather jackets of the...
After years of dong the roadtrips and documenting it on dinerhunter, and years of selling the stuff through vintage-haberdashers, I think it's time to have a place to merge the two- to show the whole picture of what it is that I do. Because as much as jackets and ties are cool, the real fun for...
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