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    Leather under a microscope

    That I know a little about. Bellies are stretchy, and backs are pretty... mechanically stable. If you're trying to make a belt (either for a machine or your pants), you cut from along the back. Bellies are scrap for anything I've ever done prior to this. Cutting cow in fronts will make for short...
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    Leather under a microscope

    That’s the one where the photo is super blurry. The sample is from the edge, so it’s possibly not representative of the whole? Does any of the rest of the hide have a pebble texture? More samples, especially full grain horse, are definitely needed. If my small sample suspicions are correct...
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    Leather under a microscope

    @Canuck Panda , how sure are you the identification is correct on the Badalassi? I did a late edit on that post after digging a bit. According to the marketing copy I found on the Badalassi Minerva Box Cow, it should have a pebble grain and medium hand, and the sample is smooth and firm. The...
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    Leather under a microscope

    Education purposes are always fair use. Those side-by-sides are excellent! The only one I think you can see any sort of top coat is the Fivestar goat seal. That seal coat is thick (pretty sure it's supposed to be, before anyone jumps in to criticize). Elsewhere, like the Merino sheep, there's a...
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    Leather under a microscope

    Meanwhile, I tried something out. I have a little magnifying glass that I took off the helping hands to make it less tippy during this exercise. No clue the level of magnification, but not much. IF a few more samples continue to show the differing pore structure between horse and cow, I was just...
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    Leather under a microscope

    Better understanding.
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    Leather under a microscope

    What part?
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    Leather under a microscope

    Bonus, a new set of work gloves arrived in the mail yesterday, so another goat sample. This is probably about the second cheapest goat you'll probably be able to find. Chrome tanned for sure. Macro 90X 180X 270X Gloves may be, but I'm pretty sure this qualifies as garment leather. I had to...
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    Leather under a microscope

    Fivestar Seal Goatskin 90X 180X 270X Based on this single sample, it looks like goat starts fine and dense, but fuzzes out quickly. Probably explains the abrasion resistance combo with drape/soft hand.
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    Leather under a microscope

    Badalassi Mingria Box Cow Hide 90X 180X 270X This is the one that totally throws what I thought I had been starting to learn about horse out the window. I want to know more about this one @Canuck Panda . It just doesn't look like any of the other cow hides, and I have to wonder what is...
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    Leather under a microscope

    Horween Bison 90X 180X 270X This one was really hard to image... I think it's probably milled or something, so it's super fuzzy on the flesh side. That also means it won't cut very cleanly. Also flexible, and floppy. From what I can tell from this one single sample is that it's kinda like...
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    Leather under a microscope

    Horween HH 90X 180X 270X Another horse hide that's practically a solid mass all the way through. Fine and dense. It just never goes fuzzy. More of the jerky looking deposits that I THOUGHT were horse hallmarks until the cow I'll note when I get to it.
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    Leather under a microscope

    Merino Sheepskin 90X 180X 270X This leather feels firmer than the cow in the last post. The fibers look a little finer and denser, but it's tough to say. For anyone playing along at home, the labeled magnification levels are directly correlated. If you draw a line on one image, it is the same...
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    Leather under a microscope

    Horween Cow Hide 90X 180X 270X This is obviously much more spongy. To be fair, I think it's probably been milled or something. It feels as spongy as it looks. It's really tough to say what's "cows are spongy" and what's milling. Milled or no, the fibers are clearly much more coarse. This...
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    Leather under a microscope

    Shinki HH 90X 180X 270X Here's some more of those jerky-looking deposits I mentioned on the elk post. I'm really not sure what they are. It's dense, and well integrated. More of the horse just being a nearly solid mass of dense, fine fibers.
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    Leather under a microscope

    Horween Butt strip 90X 180X 270X So, from previous disambiguation, this is shell-adjacent horse butt. The whole deal with the shell is that it has a really dense grain. I've wondered what the actual "shell" structure is that is so special about that circular patch on the horse's butt. My...
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    Leather under a microscope

    Horween Wapiti 90X 180X 270X Looking through all of the photos, there are a handful, mostly horse, that have those thick, dark, beef jerky looking chunks deeper in the hide like this. I was starting to think that might be part of the "horse is tough" structure, and the elk has it too. There's...
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    Leather under a microscope

    OK... Well... That was... Something... I used my helping hands (an electronics soldering aid) to hold the leather samples to where I could view them on edge. Getting the edge of a flexible material to get and stay in plane is REALLY HARD!!! On top of that, if the cut is even slightly less than...
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    Leather under a microscope

    Hopefully that’s a compliment. I’m choosing to take it that way at any rate. More to come will require having more samples to image. If anyone has anything lying around, let me know. Especially full grain horse, as that seems to be the differentiation people are interested in. If you have a...
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    Leather under a microscope

    OK. I did my thing. If you're following along, go back and check out the recent tranche of posts. Amateur analysis complete. Canuck Panda's side by side comparisons are especially interesting, and may have changed my mind on my identification of the briefcase leather. I assumed it was cow...

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