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  1. stephen1965

    The "Annoying Phrase" Thread

    lol lol yep, say what you mean if that's what you meant to say.
  2. stephen1965

    The "Annoying Phrase" Thread

    I've been trying to rise above my station too by being as rude as I like but with but without any malice:) I think I know what you're implying but I don't know what you mean... Yep, copying "manners" is foolish. This U and non-U stuff seems to have practical applications.
  3. stephen1965

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    I think you're right about context and about preparation carebear but can we also train and prepare ourselves for non violence/peace? If we don't do we make ourselves incapable of it? I'm sure you don't think the two are mutually exclusive and I don't mean to be flippant and I'm making a...
  4. stephen1965

    The "Annoying Phrase" Thread

    I'm not an expert on this but I suppose that the upper class (U) can afford to be 'rude' or direct about what they say and what they want. The so called non-U Middle class are less direct and try to be 'polite' like a servant is polite to his master. Also it might have something to do with the...
  5. stephen1965

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    Not aimed at anyone in particular but I'm slightly surprised at the amount of martial types on this thread. Not that there's anything wrong with that but there haven't been that many replies from the non violent (a few but they're outnumbered). What I mean is that most have said something like...
  6. stephen1965

    The "Annoying Phrase" Thread

    lol Reminds me that London Underground periodically make announcements on the platform that 'There is a good service currently'. They actually mean 'the service is as advertised'. As for 'pardon', I would think it should be uttered only by those involved with the Law or when making an attempt...
  7. stephen1965

    The "Annoying Phrase" Thread

    ;) Ah, now I see.
  8. stephen1965

    The "Annoying Phrase" Thread

    lol 'I'm extremely sorry, I can't do anything. Er, sorry'.lol Yes you're right it can be annoying but they(the sorry) didn't mean it to be. It tends to signify a lack of responsibility when someone apologises for everything and nothing and a way of avoiding the responsibility of their own...
  9. stephen1965

    The "Annoying Phrase" Thread

    About a year ago, in the English press there were articles about the mother of Prince William's girlfriend. (Can't recall her name). Anyway, apparently she would say 'Pardon?' (non U) when she meant 'What?'.(U = upper class, non-U means aspiring middle class) The English author Nancy Mitford...
  10. stephen1965

    Bicycles & suits

    Hi, found this which i think is the advert for the February SF Tweed run.. Oh hang on, here you go, there's a new website dedicated to the SF Tweed Run.. http://sftweed.com/ Apparently the next SF Tweed ride is April 30th. Give us a report if you go :) Says that there's also a Tweed...
  11. stephen1965

    Bicycles & suits

    Nice bike Lamplight. There is/was a London 'Tweed Run' organized by the London fixed gear forum/community which might provide some fun or a little inspiration when considering vintage cycling.. See more: http://www.flickr.com/photos/booksnake/3222991461/ According to the Chap mag...
  12. stephen1965

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    Here's a picture of someone who fought back when his right to (political) party was in imminent danger of death or grievous bodily harm. Jean Moulin (of the French resistance), stylish AND fighting for our right to party (against the then authorities).
  13. stephen1965

    The "Blue Blazer".

    Well if you've only got the choice of 1 then a blue blazer is a great choice for it's versatility. If you were living in very rural parts maybe I'd swap for a tweed.
  14. stephen1965

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    War always appears to be warranted in the eyes of the warlike. Peace always appears to be... The 'masses' (whoever they are) will never agree, won't be led and are best hidden from. You can hide amongst them, trying to transform negative emotions into creative solutions lol
  15. stephen1965

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    I suspect that most of us are 'cool with it' if it's Mike Tyson with his feet on the seat. Standing somehow seems a better option at those times when Mike wants to take up the bench and rest those weary legs.. When it's someone who I I think isn't going to give me any trouble because I sense...
  16. stephen1965

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    There's always been crime/violence/recession etc but 'fear' in my opinion is often being used to manipulate voters/the population in order to control us/curb dissent/make us consume or whatever. Recently in London there were the so called G20 protests after which the police force have been under...
  17. stephen1965

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    Firstly, I do hold people responsible for their actions. So, yes, if someone commits a criminal act, it is their fault. As for labeling things.. I see what you mean about recognizing danger in advance. We store memories and categorize previous experience to be able to make mature judgments...
  18. stephen1965

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    I'm not a Christian, though in my experience, it seems more intelligent to 'hate the sin not the sinner'. That's why when trying to think of ways to resist or lessen violent crime it's probably not a good idea to label people 'thugs' or as less then human. Once people are 'less than human' or...
  19. stephen1965

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    Hello John. Yes I agree they certainly have given up their civility in that case. I don't mean to excuse bullying on any scale. I also agree that Stalin was a criminal who should have been stopped somehow. I don't discount violence as a last resort. But, just wanted to mention that it's not...

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