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dapperdude

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@steur
Thanks again for the help with the colour for the Gobasti Muflone. It's a beautiful colour. I had a look at the label under some side lighting and you are indeed correct about the colour. Thanks so much for helping me solve this mystery. Do you think im on the right track with the finish? Is this soleil do you think?
The one you posted is incredible too They are all stunning hats.

I gave it quick brush and shot some slow mo footage for my archive. The photos just don't do it justice.
I'm happy to post it unlisted on YouTube if anyone was interested.


I threw up a couple of screenshots.

Thanks

Ian Screenshot_20261101_184630_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20261101_184637_Gallery.jpg
 
steur

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dapperdude said:
@steur
Thanks again for the help with the colour for the Gobasti Muflone. It's a beautiful colour. I had a look at the label under some side lighting and you are indeed correct about the colour. Thanks so much for helping me solve this mystery. Do you think im on the right track with the finish? Is this soleil do you think?
The one you posted is incredible too They are all stunning hats.

I gave it quick brush and shot some slow mo footage for my archive. The photos just don't do it justice.
I'm happy to post it unlisted on YouTube if anyone was interested.


I threw up a couple of screenshots.

Thanks

Ian View attachment 821137 View attachment 821138
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As far as I know Borsalino didn't use "soleil" or "flamand" as names for their finishes. They did use "peluche". Soleil finished hats usually have a higher shine, which is not as noticeable on this hat, but that could just be the lighting.
 
moontheloon

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dapperdude said:
I found a lot of similar information when I originally had a look.

That sounds like a very interesting video. And Amon sounds like a very interesting guy. I'll have to try and find thst book.
Im amazed how connected the hat makers seemed to be . Not just to politicians, but internationally. White label stuff sold through multiple vendors. Fur felt sourced from obscure (at least to me) sources and going to makers in direct competition and vastly different regions.
I went down a rabbit hole chasing Fisher/Fischer history for a while and it was very confusing. Ww 2, name changes, mass migration, nationalised factories, white label or contract manufacturing. Everyone seems to be connected somehow back then

The hats I mentioned being burned was in relation to something i read about Amon setting a bunch of Borsalinos on fire when Italy entered the war from.memory? Thats good to know about Ethiopia. And the timeline makes a lot more sense.

At that at the time I think he was the largest individual hat buyer in the world. And that he swapped Shady Oak hats with his guests and had accumulated an amazing and huge collection of hats owned by his powerful and famous guests.
Truly interesting story and period. Without being able to cross-reference the faded tag with the spreadsheet here, I think it would just been an amazing hat that I couldn't find any information on.

Thanks for the info.
Would love to see your video when it comes out.

Ian
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You' ll love the book
Highly recommended
 
Yocker20

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I'm also posting my recent thrift store find here, I am indeed very happy that I snatched it from that shelf!
From what I see the condition is almost flawless! My camera makes it seem a bit green tho..
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dapperdude

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steur said:
As far as I know Borsalino didn't use "soleil" or "flamand" as names for their finishes. They did use "peluche". Soleil finished hats usually have a higher shine, which is not as noticeable on this hat, but that could just be the lighting.
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This was so helpful. I will correct my typo too.
GORASTI MUFLONE MARQUE GRANDE LUXE. Peluche finish. Size 6.
Do you mid if I send you a dm regarding a curious development, rather than clutter main thread?


Thankyou once again for sharing your knowledge. You are very kind.
Ian
 

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dapperdude

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Clutter away! We here all want to know.
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Thanks Jeff.
With hindsight I may have reached out for clarity on this Gorasti first. It was kind of you guys to help me on this. As a new member, you guys have been very welcoming.

I am wary of misstepping here, but would like to ensure anything I post is accurate for the record. Without being too specific, this hat had a companion with some very distinctive features.

This Gris Chiaris one also had a white label traveller as a companion.

I'm consistently surprised at what comes as the secondary in a pair.

I will happily post it here first if thats more appropriate.


Ian
 
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dapperdude

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Hello gents.
Not sure where exactly to post this one.
Mystery hat that came in a pair with my Peter Bros GORASTI.
The weight on this one is 133.36 grams on diamond scales and 136 on kitchen ones.That's with no leather sweatband or liner. Underwelted edge (10mm). Very faded made in USA gold stamp on sweatband in right side as you wear it. Some gold residue from a previous stamp on left side.
40mm external ribbon. 34 mm internal fabric band (synthetic or backed). Black bow at sweatband join. Which is **** jointed .
Crown is 110mm sides. 100mm front centre dent. Around 140mm with centre up. No labels, sizing or other indicators. Sorry there is not much to work with. Brim is 60mm sides and back. 58mm front.
Brim has a nice upward curl all round, but snaps down easily.
Sorry if I should have posted elsewhere, but its companion, plus the big weight and fabric sweatband spiked my curiosity .
This has been wrapped and boxed since I got it, and as I buy too many hats, it kept getting pushed down the pile. As soon as I started cleaning it I realised there was something unusual about this one, so i stopped and posted it.

Any thoughts, or is this better posted elsewhere? Do to the connection with the Gorasti, the shape and weight , I thought i would try here first. 60 cm. Thanks so much.

Regards
Ian
 

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