The BORSALINO BROTHERHOOD

[jeffgarf]

Cocisan on the paper label is a mystery identifier — I haven’t been able to find a conclusive definition.

It appears on @steur 's list of model names.

 

[Pellie]

Here is the second — this one from Ferruccio Bruno.

Felt color is Pomice (light gray/brown) with a Nero (black) ribbon. The hat weighs 82 g, brim is 6 cm, and open crown is 13.5 cm.

Cocisan on the paper label is a mystery identifier — I haven’t been able to find a conclusive definition. I’m hoping an expert here can provide more information.

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Nice finds!

 

[Pellie]

Borsalino 'quàlita speciale' sold by Sools. Dated 31 december 1976. Can't read what is printed on the under side of the label. I like the color combination of this one.

 

[dapperdude]

Having recently joined, and having discovered the Borsalino brotherhood . I bought a bundle not long ago and added this hat last minute on top. Poor photos,.no internal pictures. No size. But the others were good and I took a small gamble. I noticed the stitching and wanted a foldable anyway. I was very pleasantly surprised when this turned up..

A 1982( i think) foldable in Gris Chiaris. Not sure on model? Qualita extra extra superiore. Punti 6. Sold out of Melegari Milan. It's incredibly light. Lighter than my pocketweight Christys which was made by Akubra in late 40s. . I will weigh it later on. I'm very pleased with this one and wonder if it is worthy of the Brotherhood? Most of my hats are English and Austrian, so this is a lovely addition.

Cheers.
Ian

 

[jeffgarf]

Having recently joined, and having discovered the Borsalino brotherhood . I bought a bundle not long ago and added this hat last minute on top. Poor photos,.no internal pictures. No size. But the others were good and I took a small gamble. I noticed the stitching and wanted a foldable anyway. I was very pleasantly surprised when this turned up..

A 1982( i think) foldable in Gris Chiaris. Not sure on model? Qualita extra extra superiore. Punti 6. Sold out of Melegari Milan. It's incredibly light. Lighter than my pocketweight Christys which was made by Akubra in late 40s. . I will weigh it later on. I'm very pleased with this one and wonder if it is worthy of the Brotherhood? Most of my hats are English and Austrian, so this is a lovely addition.

Cheers.
Ian

I believe you are correct on the year.

 

[steur]

Here is the second — this one from Ferruccio Bruno.

Felt color is Pomice (light gray/brown) with a Nero (black) ribbon. The hat weighs 82 g, brim is 6 cm, and open crown is 13.5 cm.

Cocisan on the paper label is a mystery identifier — I haven’t been able to find a conclusive definition. I’m hoping an expert here can provide more information.

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Two exceptional beauties you've found yourself there, Bill. Looking at their liners they could have been coffin box hats.

 

[steur]

Having recently joined, and having discovered the Borsalino brotherhood . I bought a bundle not long ago and added this hat last minute on top. Poor photos,.no internal pictures. No size. But the others were good and I took a small gamble. I noticed the stitching and wanted a foldable anyway. I was very pleasantly surprised when this turned up..

A 1982( i think) foldable in Gris Chiaris. Not sure on model? Qualita extra extra superiore. Punti 6. Sold out of Melegari Milan. It's incredibly light. Lighter than my pocketweight Christys which was made by Akubra in late 40s. . I will weigh it later on. I'm very pleased with this one and wonder if it is worthy of the Brotherhood? Most of my hats are English and Austrian, so this is a lovely addition.

Cheers.
Ian

Welcome to the brotherhood. Always nice to see a colour we haven't seen before. There has been a gris chiaro, but not a gris chiaris yet. Cool find.

 

[wsmontana]

Two exceptional beauties you've found yourself there, Bill. Looking at their liners they could have been coffin box hats.

Thank you Stephan! The felt on both of these is amazing and is dry-shapable. Fun to experiment with different creases.

This crease i affectionately call the @steur:

and this crease I affectionately call the @TimmyV :

 

[EL-Jimenez74]

Great looking hat, and I love how pliable the felt is. Also nice job with the different creases!!

 

[dapperdude]

Hello all,

Massive thanks to the amount of work put into this section by everyone, Especially Steurs amazing spreadsheet.. I have had this hat for a little while, and every time i wear it it makes me smile.
The label is very faded unfortunately, and until I found the information here , I had almost given up on finding out more about it.
It's a Marque Grande Luxe Borsalino, retailed by Peter Brothers in Fort worth Texas. Crown is 150mm, front and back brim 65 mm. Sides 60 mm
I have spent a bit of time comparing models and colours to information kindly provided here, and would love any and all insight on whether im on the right track? The label is very faded, but is it a "GORASTI" in MUFLOS 2 colour? It's size 60, though is more like 59, which i understand is not unusual for Borsalinos..Would i be right thinking this is mid 50s to 60s?

I trip up on the many finishes and different names, but its a Melusine in Soleil finish correct?? It is hand shapeable. It was the first pinch crease hat I had seen , and I'm still amazed every time.

I have had this one for a little while, and don't bring it out often, but when I do it blows me away every time. This ignited my curiosity and passion for the amazing variety of colours and finishes on these amazing hats.
Thsnks once again for all of your hard work and generosity in sharing your knowledge.
Thanks all
Ian

 

[dapperdude]

Just thought id throw some weights up. The Gris Chiaris i posted is incredibly light. I put it on a kitchen scale first at 63 grams. I got the jeweller's scale out and it went 61.88. Im amazed they made a foldable hat so light. Especially at 59 cm.

The Marque Grand Luxe is 126 g . I'm not sure if it 60 or size 6?? Feels about 59.


Cheers Lads

Ian

 

[steur]

Hello all,

Massive thanks to the amount of work put into this section by everyone, Especially Steurs amazing spreadsheet.. I have had this hat for a little while, and every time i wear it it makes me smile.
The label is very faded unfortunately, and until I found the information here , I had almost given up on finding out more about it.
It's a Marque Grande Luxe Borsalino, retailed by Peter Brothers in Fort worth Texas. Crown is 150mm, front and back brim 65 mm. Sides 60 mm
I have spent a bit of time comparing models and colours to information kindly provided here, and would love any and all insight on whether im on the right track? The label is very faded, but is it a "GORASTI" in MUFLOS 2 colour? It's size 60, though is more like 59, which i understand is not unusual for Borsalinos..Would i be right thinking this is mid 50s to 60s?

I trip up on the many finishes and different names, but its a Melusine in Soleil finish correct?? It is hand shapeable. It was the first pinch crease hat I had seen , and I'm still amazed every time.

I have had this one for a little while, and don't bring it out often, but when I do it blows me away every time. This ignited my curiosity and passion for the amazing variety of colours and finishes on these amazing hats.
Thsnks once again for all of your hard work and generosity in sharing your knowledge.
Thanks all
Ian
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Very nice hat. These MGL hats have great felt. I think the colour is Muflone (mouflon, a wild mountain sheep). The model is indeed Gorasti and the time period 1954-1960. Nice find.

 

[dapperdude]

Thanks mate without your work I never wouldve been able to decipher it. I've had a look at a bit more today and I'm fascinated by the further information.
With hindsight, The Peter Brothers link actually made it harder to ID with hi I figured it for a late 50s. I spent some time cross referencing your list going mad.
It really is amazing the different variety of finishes that have been lost to the ages.


Thanks so much mate.

Ian

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[BobHufford]

The Peter Brothers link actually made it harder to ID with hi I figured it for a late 50s.

Peters Brothers can make Borsalinos confusing.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...pecial-shady-pines.102435/page-6#post-3045729

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...pecial-shady-pines.102435/page-5#post-3012372